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Old 12-20-2011, 06:18 AM   #521
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Regarding cleaning the bottles, are you just soaking in water? If so, drop some PBW or Oxyclean in there and you'll be golden. A 24-hour soak in either gets just about anything off.
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:10 PM   #522
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I am assuming my last batch was infected (gushing bottles and bad taste). All of my nice swing top bottles have a film that won't budge after a day of soaking in water. Any suggestions about how to get my bottles clean is greatly appreciated. Also, would a switch from StarSan to iodophor be an issue? This is the first time I have had this problem.
I use TSP (trisodium phosphate) to clean all my equipment, buckets and carboys, and I soak them in this solution for at least 20 minutes, then rinse really well, and then i use iodphore to sanitize.

According to the manufacturer, iodophore needs only 3 minutes to kill everything it's gonna kill, but I leave things soaking in it as long as possible, just to be safe.

Iodophore does stain plastics pretty badly, but I find that the TSP actually removes that stain after a good soaking, which I like, because i know it's doing something, so it's kind of an indicator.

I finally figured out the source of my infection.

If you look at the picture, you'll notice the scum on the top is only on the left side, it baffled me a bit, so I looked really close and found that actually, it is creeping down the inside of the bucket from the top, and then spills out onto the surface of the wort.

I then realized that when I poured the liquid Festa wort from the box, i did so on the left side, right where that infection seems to start.

Looks like even though I actually sanitized the spout of the wort container, something not sanitized made a bit of contact with the cardboard box or an unsanitized part of the plastic bladder inside the Festa box.

I knew it had to be something like that!

Amazing how little it takes to cause an infection. Makes me want to wear an NBC safe suite outside now, haha.

At least now I know, and I'll be MUCH more careful next time.

Thanks all!

Chris

 
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:57 PM   #523
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Hi All,

I've just finished a Festa brew European Pilsner kit, and upon opening it up for bottling today, i noticed some little nasties floating on the top of the wort.

This has been sitting on the yeast cake since Nov 27th, I did not rack into a secondary actually "because" I am cautious about infecting my beer.

I am way overly cautious, I soak my bucket, carboy and equipment in TSP (trisodium phosphate) for usually an hour or so before and after use, and then sanitize with iodophore.

The fact that something sneaked in makes me really wonder how it got in there.

I make sure nothing that is not sanitized comes into contact with any of my utensils or equipment, and make sure my hands are clean enough almost to do surgery...lol.

I tasted the beer out of the graduated cylinder when I took a sample for the FG, and it tasted fine, nothing weird or off tasting, so I guess the question is "is it ok", or will something grow in the bottles now??

Take a look and tell me what you think, it's not much, but it's in there, so I just want to make sure it's gonna be ok.

Thanks!!

Chris



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I use TSP (trisodium phosphate) to clean all my equipment, buckets and carboys, and I soak them in this solution for at least 20 minutes, then rinse really well, and then i use iodphore to sanitize.

According to the manufacturer, iodophore needs only 3 minutes to kill everything it's gonna kill, but I leave things soaking in it as long as possible, just to be safe.

Iodophore does stain plastics pretty badly, but I find that the TSP actually removes that stain after a good soaking, which I like, because i know it's doing something, so it's kind of an indicator.

I finally figured out the source of my infection.

If you look at the picture, you'll notice the scum on the top is only on the left side, it baffled me a bit, so I looked really close and found that actually, it is creeping down the inside of the bucket from the top, and then spills out onto the surface of the wort.

I then realized that when I poured the liquid Festa wort from the box, i did so on the left side, right where that infection seems to start.

Looks like even though I actually sanitized the spout of the wort container, something not sanitized made a bit of contact with the cardboard box or an unsanitized part of the plastic bladder inside the Festa box.

I knew it had to be something like that!

Amazing how little it takes to cause an infection. Makes me want to wear an NBC safe suite outside now, haha.

At least now I know, and I'll be MUCH more careful next time.

Thanks all!

Chris
Your pictures look completely normal to me. Either that or most of my beers are infected...infected with great taste! I've seen those floaties, yeast rafts, what have you on several of my beers. I think you are fine.

 
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Old 01-01-2012, 07:23 AM   #524
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Not sure if this is an infection


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I have never had an infection so dont know what to do now, tip it out and start again? What can i do differently?


 
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Old 01-01-2012, 08:03 AM   #525
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That looks like beer in the making, to me. Absolutely nothing odd about it.

 
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Old 01-01-2012, 06:40 PM   #526
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The PBW worked great. The mystery film / infection that was "glued" to my bottles came off in sheets after a day soak.

 
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Old 01-01-2012, 06:56 PM   #527
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I have never had an infection so dont know what to do now, tip it out and start again? What can i do differently?
This looks perfectly normal to me. The yeasties are working well to make beer. The gunk on top is just the residual left from the peak of fermentation.

 
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Old 01-01-2012, 11:10 PM   #528
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This looks perfectly normal to me. The yeasties are working well to make beer. The gunk on top is just the residual left from the peak of fermentation.
Thanks i will give it a couple more days then keg it.

 
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:54 AM   #529
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This could be my first infection- or its just a sign of massive head retention! This is an irish w oatmeal brewed yesterday. Fermentation was a little hot- probably didnt get below 70 degrees until early this morning.

 
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Old 01-05-2012, 04:23 AM   #530
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Looks like a normal, vigorous primary fermentation. Try using a blow off tube running to a small bucket with a weak bleach solution instead of the standard airlock next time to solve this issue.

 
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