They're appear to be a lot of posts missing from this thread. I know they merged two threads but they deleted posts while they were doing it, i think.
Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war;
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial.
Prim 1: Ogre's House Red Ale
Prim 2: Apfelwein