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Old 06-22-2008, 03:06 AM   #1
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Well this isnt specifically about hops but there isnt a general gardening section so this was the best match.
Anyway it seems I have a groundhog or maybe its a woodchuck (not sure of the difference) eating all sorts of stuff in my garden it started by eating every single leaf on the broccoli then moved on to the beans I have growing.
I dont want to hurt them since I like having all sorts of wildlife living in my yard but im interested in ideas for discouraging them from eating the good stuff, however if they damage my hops they're history!
I already have fencing around the garden but apparently they can climb. from everything ive read the normal repellents dont work, chilli peppers, garlic, predator urine...
Any ideas?

 
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Old 06-22-2008, 11:48 AM   #2
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Yep, they can climb and they can (obviously) dig. I tried one of those Hav-A-Hart live traps once, didn't have any luck. Maybe you could have better luck with one. Keep in mind groundhogs treat vacant groundhog dens like a vacant apartment. Once you get rid of one, it won't be too long after the next one moves in and notices the buffet next door (your garden).

Groundhogs are pretty skittish for the most part though. Moving scarecrow or something like that? They see me at 100 yards and they high-tail it for the bushes. Probably has something to do with me looking at them through a scope though.

Good luck. They're a pain in the ass and unfortunately non-lethal ways with groundhogs are problematic and rather difficult.

 
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:19 PM   #3
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Any ideas?
I had a few until I read this...

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I dont want to hurt them
I'm all for animal preservation, but spending summers as a kid on my grandfather's farm has taught me that when groundhogs are eating crops (or in my grandfather's case, digging holes in an airstrip/field, which could cause a crash landing), they've got to go. As my grandfather used to say... "give 'em lead poisoning." They're just big rats.

 
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:31 PM   #4
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I think I should be able to do something to keep them out, I dont have any air fields on my property so im not worried about that, and my property in built on a rock so all my garden is terraced and the groundhogs can dig under it. im pretty sure they're climbing the fence or maybe the fence isnt fine enough and they're slipping through. the fence has openings about 1.5" x 2" that might be to big at least for a small ground hog.

 
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:50 PM   #5
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Use a havahart, then




dunk the trap in a rainbarrel....

 
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:14 PM   #6
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I say let an animal live....that was until I turned an ankle in a burrowed tunel while mowing. Then I said " *@@#$^%$# mother *&$#@%^*&@## your dead" now they are gone.

 
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:20 PM   #7
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Unless you're on a farm or the woods where you can safely discharge a firearm, the best way to deal with them is the small mammal traps. This is the one I have, got it at Dick's Sporting Goods. A couple years ago, we had a family living under our shed. I wanted to just shoot 'em with my .35 Remington, but we live in the city...so I bought a high-powered pellet gun. Didn't faze them. Bastards. So I took the pellet gun back and got the trap.

In the span of a couple months, we caught 2 possum, 1 raccoon and 9 groundhogs. Yes, 9...and we live in the city. I just trap them and take them across the river and out into the country. I was even nice enough to drop them off at the same place so maybe they could reunite. This was after I poked them with a stick for awhile as revenge for eating my beet greens.

That was a couple years ago. We've been free of them ever since...until this weekend. My dog's had is head buried under the shed all weekend long. HA! I gotta get my trap back from a friend who's borrowing it, then I'm gonna catch him and let my dog f*ck with him for awhile. woooot!
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so I bought a high-powered pellet gun. Didn't faze them.
Tough little suckers, ain't they?! I tried the same thing at one point. When I moved to my current house I bought a .17 Savage, have a lot more room for it than I did at my old house (1/4 acre and 20 feet from my neighbors, I'm sure they wouldn't have appreciated my Mossberg 835 going off). Currently groundhog free and the farmer next door loves me.

 
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Old 06-23-2008, 07:17 PM   #9
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In the span of a couple months, we caught 2 possum, 1 raccoon and 9 groundhogs. Yes, 9...and we live in the city. I just trap them and take them across the river and out into the country. I was even nice enough to drop them off at the same place so maybe they could reunite. This was after I poked them with a stick for awhile as revenge for eating my beet greens.
Great inflict those nasty varmints on other people you don't know.

Groundhogs are plentiful around here and can cause plenty of damage to crops and earth works. Trapping them is tricky as they are very wary. You need to make sure the trap is very stable and nothing will move or flutter until they are caught.

I've heard they don't like noise so somekind of noise making device like one of those windmills may be a way to drive them off. A good dog in the yard is even better. Growing up we had a dog that made it a mission to kill every ground hog she encountered. She would spend all day digging at a hole if it required it. The 55acre farm was cleared of ground hogs soon after we moved to the farm and stayed clear until several years after that dog passed on.

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Old 06-23-2008, 07:30 PM   #10
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Well this isnt specifically about hops but there isnt a general gardening section so this was the best match.
Anyway it seems I have a groundhog or maybe its a woodchuck (not sure of the difference) eating all sorts of stuff in my garden it started by eating every single leaf on the broccoli then moved on to the beans I have growing.
I dont want to hurt them since I like having all sorts of wildlife living in my yard but im interested in ideas for discouraging them from eating the good stuff, however if they damage my hops they're history!
I already have fencing around the garden but apparently they can climb. from everything ive read the normal repellents dont work, chilli peppers, garlic, predator urine...
Any ideas?
A lead injection is the best way to take care of the hogs eating your graden up!

 
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