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Old 06-19-2008, 02:22 PM   #1
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I have recently reignited my interest in sour beers and I was thinking about brewing a Flemish red but I'm nervous ass hell about using anything other than saccharomyces cerevisiae in my home brewery any one around here brewing sour beers?

anyone got a good recommendation for using oak chips/staves?

I'm thinking about brewing 10 gallon batches fermenting half in a bucket and half in a carboy then blended post fermentation to try and match the oxygen introduced when using oak barrels.

I'm thinking about using some dregs from a bottle of rodenbach should I make some kind of a starter?

I'm interested in any kind of sours and I cant get any oud bruin or berliner weiss in my area what beer should I start out with?
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Old 06-20-2008, 11:56 AM   #2
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landhoney is our resident sour beer expert, so he may be showing up here soon. I would recommend using oak cubes instead of chips. Staves are good too. I think most belgian breweries use a different yeast to carbonate than to ferment with. Aaaand that's the extent of my sour beer knowledge.
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Old 06-20-2008, 11:22 PM   #3
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I have been thinking about experimenting with brett. Probably bottling with it, Im not really sure exactly how to go about that but I might start there. I really need to pick up a copy of wild brews & farmhouse ales soon but I just bought designing great beers and brewing classic styles so its gonna be a while.

as far as using the dregs from a bottle I would be targeting the "critters" and not so much the yeast. So far I think Im fermenting initially with saccharomyces and then pitching the funk. I guess it all depends on what I end up starting out with.
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:01 AM   #4
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I have been thinking about experimenting with brett. Probably bottling with it, Im not really sure exactly how to go about that but I might start there. I really need to pick up a copy of wild brews & farmhouse ales soon but I just bought designing great beers and brewing classic styles so its gonna be a while.

as far as using the dregs from a bottle I would be targeting the "critters" and not so much the yeast. So far I think Im fermenting initially with saccharomyces and then pitching the funk. I guess it all depends on what I end up starting out with.
That's the way I did my first attempts at sour beers, and it works well.
Check out my Drunk owl Mango recipe soured with the dregs of Orval(Only 1 left )

 
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Old 06-21-2008, 01:18 AM   #5
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That's the way I did my first attempts at sour beers, and it works well.
Check out my Drunk owl Mango recipe soured with the dregs of Orval(Only 1 left )
What steps did you take to keep the brett contained?
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Old 06-21-2008, 02:09 AM   #6
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Not much experience here but I have a Flanders Red in the fermenter.
I just used a Red Ale grain bill and pitched Wyeast 3763 Roeselare Blend. I'll let you know how mine comes out in 8 or 10 months.

Good luck on your sour adventure.

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Old 06-21-2008, 02:57 AM   #7
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Good luck on your sour adventure.

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Thanks Im sure I will need a lot of luck.
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Old 06-21-2008, 03:49 AM   #8
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I have recently reignited my interest in sour beers and I was thinking about brewing a Flemish red but I'm nervous ass hell about using anything other than saccharomyces cerevisiae in my home brewery any one around here brewing sour beers?
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=68491

Don't be scared of the wild stuff. Here is a good site for info.
http://www2.parc.com/emdl/members/ap...shredale.shtml

 
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Old 06-21-2008, 03:28 PM   #9
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Don't be scared of the wild stuff. Here is a good site for info.
http://www2.parc.com/emdl/members/ap...shredale.shtml[/QUOTE]

Wow that is a great refrence thanks!
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Old 06-22-2008, 05:08 AM   #10
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I really like the idea of blending, I have yet to experiment with blending. I read some thing about taking about 1 out of every 10 gallons from every batch and make a "master" blend.
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