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Old 05-30-2008, 01:02 PM   #1
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Default O.J. in secondary: whaddya think?

I've got a summer ale fermenting away vigorously, modeled after Sam Summer. Put 1 oz. of dried lemon peel and seeds of paradise in for the final five minutes of the boil. I didn't detect much citrus flavor from the sample for the hydrometer reading, but maybe that will come with time.

If it doesn't, I was thinking of adding 1/4 cup of O.J. to the secondary. Opinions. Will it overpower the lemon? Or is it a bad combination? I like some lemon with my o.j. to give it a little sour kick but I'm not sure how this will work.

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Old 05-30-2008, 01:07 PM   #2
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No, no, no, no, no. OJ + BEER = EVIL. And it's got nothing to do with overpowering anything...it's just plain nasty. Have you ever had that nasty OJ from a frozen concentrate in a can? How about after it's been sitting out on the counter for 3 days? Yeah, that's what your beer will taste like.

Most of the flavor exists in the rind (skin), so, if I were you, and I wanted more citrus, here's what I'd do: go to the grocery store and get 2 or 3 navel oranges and maybe a couple lemons. Using a microplane or the very fine side of your box cheese grater, completely zest all the fruit, making sure to only get the top layer that has the color pigment---the white pith beneath it will make your beer more astringent/bitter. Take all that zest and boil it in a bit of water for 15 mins or so. Cool it down with an ice bath and then strain it into your beer.


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Old 05-30-2008, 01:11 PM   #3
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I don't want OJ anywhere around my house...hide the knives!!!
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If you've ever found an old glass of OJ that's been sitting out for a few days.... it's aroma is EXACTLY like vomit. Just sayin'...
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Well, OK then. No O.J.

That's why I love this place. Unvarnished opinions that only help.

Evan, thanks for the suggestion. I'll give that a whirl or just go with what I have and see how it turns out.

Learned something new today. Guess I can skip work and call it a complete day.
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can you get an orange extract to add the flavor?
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I could get an extract, but I'm a little leery of those. Guy at the LHBS said they can be on the strong side. I'd rather go all natural if possible.
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I used 5 lemons just like evan said for the last 10 min of boil for my last recipe, it has a strong lemon nose, which adds to the strong flavor too. Evan's advice sounds spot on. good luck with the brew, now Im hankering for a few Sam Summers......
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I did a citrusy beer once. Never do it again.

I'm all about traditional styles. No fruit or spice for me. Not so sure about wine for that matter.
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Another option is to use a citrusy hop either in the main recipe or as a dry-hop addition. While dry hops are for aroma, the aroma gives the perception of taste. Amarillo gives a nice orange aroma and flavor.


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