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Old 05-19-2008, 11:46 PM   #1
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Doing the NB Number 8 Extract with a couple changes. Added some SB for extra depth and color and some Carafoam for better head retention. Going to pitch it onto a Belgian Abbey II yeast cake that I have a Belgian amber going on right now. Any comments to suggestions would be helpful.
2 lbs belgian 2 row (PM)
1.50 lbs. CaraMunich (PM)
0.5 lbs Carafoam (PM)
0.25 lbs Special B (PM)
6 lbs. Pilsen Malt Syrup (boil for 15min.)
2 lb. Pilsen DME (boil for 60 min.)
2 lb. Brown Belgian Soft Candi Sugar (end of boil)
15 oz. Corn Sugar or Honey (end of boil)
1 oz. Tradition (60 min)
0.5 oz. Hallertau Mittelfruh (30 min)
0.5 oz. Hallertau Mittelfruh (5 min)




 
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:43 PM   #2
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Brewing this recipe today. I got a couple grain bags so I am thinking about doing a PM with 2# of Belgian 2 row I also picked up. I was also contemplating replacing the 15oz of corn sugar with honey. What do you guys think?



 
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Old 05-22-2008, 04:38 PM   #3
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Just my $.02 - I'd skip the '15 oz Corn Sugar or Honey' addition. You have plenty of fermentables and I'm not sure what either of these would contribute to this beer, if at all. This is a big beer and I would recommend a blow off tube right from the start.

 
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:00 PM   #4
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Yeah the corn sugar is just what comes in the recipe from NB. With the extra 2lbs of 2 row I think that will cover it.

 
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:20 PM   #5
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Just checking. What is you mash schedule? Long enough and right temp for conversion? Otherwise the grains won’t add to fermentables.

(A bit of a noob myself. Someone back me up on this.)

 
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:45 PM   #6
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definitely skip the corn sugar. you already have 2 lbs of candi sugar...more than enough to lighten it up and dry it out.
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:08 PM   #7
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The special B, caramunich and carafoam don't need to be mashed. You could just steep them to get the color and fermentables. The belgian 2-row needs to be mashed. Without the 2-row you could just steep the specialty grains and do an extract brew.

 
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:24 PM   #8
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Well I was trying to add the 2 row and do a partial mash. I was hoping that this would make the beer a little better with a little less of the extract twang. This is my second batch and the first one is pretty good so far. Im just kind of a perfectionist and want to make the best beer I can with what I have. I already have all the grains mashing right now @ 150. Was going to mash for an hour then mash out/"sparge". The grain bag at 170. I figured I didnt need the corn sugar just have it on hand in case I miss my OG. Which I will probably add some buckwheat honey if it is a little low.

 
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:43 PM   #9
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That's great, definitely go for the PM!! I switched to PM and noticed a huge difference.

Sorry...I didn't mean that you should do the extract way I was just replying about the questions of the mashing...

 
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I figured I didnt need the corn sugar just have it on hand in case I miss my OG. Which I will probably add some buckwheat honey if it is a little low.
i wouldn't bother. you're getting very little from the 3 lbs of grain anyway, considering all the extract you're adding. if you missed your OG, i would add more extract and really, it's not going to be necessary in this batch. it'll be big enough.

trust me, 2 lbs of sugar is tops, even for a big belgian.

other than that, good call on the partial mash...you should probably notice a difference in flavor, although there is still a majority of extract.

Hope it turns out great!


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