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Old 05-14-2008, 03:25 PM   #1
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Homebrew ethanol fuel still - interesting article

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/04/...oto.php?page=1
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Old 05-14-2008, 03:46 PM   #2
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Interesting. I have my doubts that it will catch on, but interesting nonetheless.

 
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Old 05-14-2008, 03:53 PM   #3
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I'm not sure I buy it. Something like this would quickly drive the price of sugar through the roof and quickly make it uneconomical to operate. I can't even imagine how many people would burn their house down with this or kill themselves trying to drink it...
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Old 05-14-2008, 03:58 PM   #4
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getting the permits for home distilling for fuel can be difficult, hopefully they help people with that. Additionally, a great idea... distilling left over alcoholic drinks from bars. Left over beer, left over mixed drinks etc all in one barrel.

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Now if someone will make one that uses yard clippings instead of sugar, we're in business
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Now if someone will make one that uses yard clippings instead of sugar, we're in business
and food compost. seriously.

but, I couldn't imagine making it economical - 14 lb of sugar for one gallon of fuel + heat & water? cheaper to buy gas at that rate.
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One of the best ideas I've seen so far for ethanol production is growing algae to use as your stock material. Even then, I just don't believe that ethanol is the solution to the energy problems.
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I have looked into Jerusalem Artichoke for this purpose as they are reputedly one of the best yielding per acre for Ethanol production. Thing is, you need tons to make it feasible. And with my own personal consumption of fossil fuel being far beyond the amount I could make, it doesn't make sense. Now, if hypothetically speaking things got so bad you couldn't buy fuel at all...well then that's a different story. I'd probably go the BioDiesel route though, it seems easier and isn't as volatile as Ethanol. Plus Ethanol produces worse greenhouse problems than Gasoline, because it produces Nitrous Oxide...I wonder if Brazilians are happier because of this?
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Actually a lot of research has/is going into Methane production from Sewage and other organic waste materials. They even farm landfills. And it all kind of depends. Brazil has it down because they have an ideal environment for Sugarcane, use the chaff to fire the distillers and have a good system for it.
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It's actually a very clever idea. One of the biggest hurdles (after the permit PLUS the cost of the permit) if you want to do it solo, is the equipment. The process itself is not all that difficult, but you need the time and effort to go along with it. So I could see something like their "micro-fueler" having a chance...that is if we can get a better fuel for it. Which kind of brings me to another point....we have to remove subsidization of the crops to produce it or the true cost will always be hidden. Sure the sugar may cost $x up front out of pocket, but say sugar became highly subsidized as a result of things like this invention and the increased interest in alternative fuels (namely in this case, Ethanol) and as a result, we'd be paying increased taxes to offset the apparent cost.
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