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Old 02-23-2012, 09:58 PM   #521
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I'm planning on trying a Partial Mash version of Wayne's recipe soon. Special thanks to jwalker1140 for helping me out on the ratios.

Is the general consensus on the Oats to boil them for 15 minutes as opposed adding them to the initial mash for better results?

 
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Old 02-23-2012, 11:42 PM   #522
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Is the general consensus on the Oats to boil them for 15 minutes as opposed adding them to the initial mash for better results?
Not by me.

I suggest you brew two batches. One where you boil the oats and one where you mash them. Then tell us what YOU prefer.

Nilo's suggestion are for his system and his tastes. Mine are for mine. You won't know what your's will be until you try them both.

 
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Old 02-24-2012, 05:22 AM   #523
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Not by me.

I suggest you brew two batches. One where you boil the oats and one where you mash them. Then tell us what YOU prefer.

Nilo's suggestion are for his system and his tastes. Mine are for mine. You won't know what your's will be until you try them both.
I agree. There is no "general consensus" about the oats. The thickness and taste of the final beer will vary depending on how you use it in the process.
I personally preferred the boil option ( I did both ways) because it produced a thicker beer that had a mouth feel closer to the commercial BM (to my taste).
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:53 PM   #524
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I brewed Nilos #4 almost 2 months ago. Here is what I am noticing on my system:

1) Awesome head retention and lacing of the glass. By far the best of any of my 20+ batches

2) It is darker than blue moon with more overall flavor.

3) Body is right on

4) Mine has more orange flavor up front. Coriander is about the same from what I can tell.

5) Very easy to drink. It is going to be great during the Hot Phoenix summer.... if it lasts that long.

6) Overall I have to say that I prefer mine to the original. I like the extra orange flavor. I have seen a few people say this one is darker so if you really want to hit the color maybe back off the caramel malt a bit and if you want the orange flavor to be closer back off orange peel. Like I said though, I prefer this one to the original. I will try Wayne1's next time but I can promise that one of these will be my first beer ever to get a second and third batches!

 
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Old 02-29-2012, 04:49 PM   #525
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I brewed #4 and also really enjoyed the flavor over the original but would like to get closer in color. It may be burried in the pages and pages but Wayne1 what SRM should I shoot for to get closer in color? 4 or so?

 
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Old 02-29-2012, 05:10 PM   #526
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I'm trying to figure out a Blue Moon Clone recipe.

Things I know about Blue Moon:
  • Uses 2 Row Malt
  • Uses White Wheat
  • Uses Oats
  • Doesn't use a Belgian yeast, uses a "standard ale yeast"
  • Orange zest and coriander go in the last 3-5 minutes

Things I assume to be true about Blue Moon:
  • Ale Yeast is Cal Ale (Chico) strain
  • More orange than coriander

Things I'm trying to figure out:
  • Ratio of grains
  • Hop type and schedule
  • Yeast strain
  • Amounts of Coriander and Orange

Anyone have any nfo or ideas about this?
im currenty in the process of making a Blue Moon Clone and its day 5 of fermentation ive tasted the beer and so far it tastes like BLUE MOON!


only things i tweaked were i used citra as finishing hops and used fresh orange peel and added some honey just to make it my own twist


http://www.beertools.com/html/recipe.php?view=11028

theres the recipe i hope it helps u with ur guide line

 
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Old 02-29-2012, 06:03 PM   #527
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I brewed #4 and also really enjoyed the flavor over the original but would like to get closer in color. It may be burried in the pages and pages but Wayne1 what SRM should I shoot for to get closer in color? 4 or so?
The last two batches I made calculated at 3.4 and 3.6L A lot will depend on what type of 2- row malt and who malts it.

zerotwofour,

If you continued reading the thread you would see that I give the exact recipe that was used to brew the original batch of Blue Moon. There are many variations through this thread as people try to adapt it to their equipment and tastes. One thing that is very certain is there should be NO finishing hops. Blue Moon is brewed with only one hop addition.

Now if you like the flavor that finishing hops give, that is great but it is NOT Blue Moon and should not be referred to as a clone. It can be a tribute or based on, but a clone is as close as possible to the original. This thread is mainly about how to get as close as possible to Blue Moon.

 
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Old 03-01-2012, 05:00 AM   #528
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I couldn't find a photo of #4 side by side with the real BM, but below is #3 side by side, which should be actually a little darker than #4. Clone in on the right.
So yes, I also believe you need to fine tune the grain bill , specially the crystal amount, to account for the variations of SRM.
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:47 AM   #529
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Dammit! now I have to brew this one too!

 
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:05 PM   #530
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I couldn't find a photo of #4 side by side with the real BM, but below is #3 side by side, which should be actually a little darker than #4. Clone in on the right.
So yes, I also believe you need to fine tune the grain bill , specially the crystal amount, to account for the variations of SRM.

So my local brew shop only had bitter orange peel. Any thoughts on what to do for the sweet? He suggested fresh orange but didn't know what type or how much to use anybody have thoughts?

I know to use the zest only and not the pith. Using fresh, should I use more than two oz's, less, or equal amouts?

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