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Old 04-29-2008, 06:39 PM   #1
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Does anyone seal their hops in barrier bags (mylar)? I am looking for a good source for bags and a vacuum sealer that works with these bags.
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Old 04-29-2008, 07:07 PM   #2
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I posted something similiar to this a week or so ago. Sourcing the mylar bags retail will be tough. They are usually for ESD sensitive equipment, and carry a steep price tag. The consensus was to contact your LHBS and see if they stock them and if you can buy direct from them.

I decided on a vacuum sealer and small cooler. I vacuum seal my hops in 1 oz pouches, label them appropriately, and then store them in the cooler. The cooler sits in my freezer and keeps the light out and maintains a nice steady temperature.

Others suggested using a sandwich baggy and then putting them into a vacuum pouch.
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Old 04-29-2008, 07:34 PM   #3
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The problem with regular bags is that they do not keep out oxygen and keep hop flavor in the bag. I have noticed that even when I double bag the hops loose their pungency. With hop prices being this high we really need to protect our hops (GOLD).
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Old 04-29-2008, 07:43 PM   #4
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I agree. Mylar is damned expensive... Also, it seals at a different temperature than the plastic vacuum systems, so you may be looking at a completely different setup
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:19 PM   #5
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My foodsaver reseals mylar bags so I assume they all will. I noticed that zip lock freezer bags do a better job than regular (less hop smell when I open the freezer so it's not scientific). When I used the foodsaver and their regular bags, I can't smell any hops in the freezer. I think the mylar is overkill unless you're storing for 3 years.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:38 PM   #6
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My foodsaver reseals mylar bags so I assume they all will. I noticed that zip lock freezer bags do a better job than regular (less hop smell when I open the freezer so it's not scientific). When I used the foodsaver and their regular bags, I can't smell any hops in the freezer. I think the mylar is overkill unless you're storing for 3 years.
That's it Bobby, I want to be able to not worry for 3 years because I am growing hops now. I also want to be able to reseal when I open 1 LB bags into 2 or 4 oz bags too. If nitrogen makes a big difference then I would get a cylinder of it and purge the bags just before vacuum sealing.

I think this hop problem we are all experiencing may well last until 2010 and want to be as good as I can be to the hops I already have or will have.
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:19 AM   #7
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Most food savers will not vacuum the air out of the mylar bags, they will however seal them, most of the HB distributors just squeeze all the air out they can and seal the mylar.
You can purge with Co2 and then seal in mylar for long term storage.
The bags are expensive, the pellet size bags will run you from 25 to 30 cents each.

 
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Oh, I forgot to mention the trick to the mylar bags is to insert a coffee stirring straw in the opening to give the air a place to flow. When it goes to seal, it just melts it shut.
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Old 04-30-2008, 01:29 AM   #9
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OK then I think I will just buy a impulse sealer because I know they work with mylar.
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Old 04-30-2008, 02:30 AM   #10
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Thats what we use, it works great.

 
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