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Old 04-18-2008, 02:30 PM   #1
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Frickin IDIOTS...got this guy at work rambling on about global warming and how it is so bad and we are killing everything.
I have tried many times to tell him that there is no such thing and he is just dumfounded. This going green crap, CFL's law they are trying to pass, global warming, ethanol, and all this crap about renewable resources UGGHH cant take it any more, people just hop on the bandwagon with out doing any research. They think it is the greates thing and not one thing I mentioned is a GOOD thing

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Old 04-18-2008, 02:41 PM   #2
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Um, have YOU done any research? If you think that global warming and green products are "crap" then I would guess that you haven't either.

I can't stand people on either side of the debate who make unfounded unqualified absolute statements about the subject. I lie somewhere in the middle: the scaremongors like Al Gore are part of a concerted effort to frighten the people by cherry-picking facts and laying doomsday scenarios. The other side is populated largely by wholesale deniers who approach the issue with a position and then try to justify that position by ranting about hwo global warming is a myth.

What I can't figure out is why more people can't approach the issue with an open mind and no preconceptions and base their position on the facts and evidence. Both sides are guilty here.


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Old 04-18-2008, 02:41 PM   #3
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... and here we go again and again and again...

Here's the thing. There really isn't any debate that there's global warming. The only real question is the cause of it and what (if anything) to do about it. If you're trying to claim that there's no such thing as global warming... well, nothing I say is going to convince you otherwise.
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Old 04-18-2008, 02:45 PM   #4
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Frickin IDIOTS...got this guy at work rambling on about global warming and how it is so bad and we are killing everything.
I have tried many times to tell him that there is no such thing and he is just dumfounded. This going green crap, CFL's law they are trying to pass, global warming, ethanol, and all this crap about renewable resources UGGHH cant take it any more, people just hop on the bandwagon with out doing any research. They think it is the greates thing and not one thing I mentioned is a GOOD thing

rant done I feel better.
I bet you belong to the Flat Earth Society too, huh?
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Old 04-18-2008, 02:47 PM   #5
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There also is no reasonable doubt that we are using oil faster than the Earth is making it and that, in our current situation, we are deep kimchi after we use it up.

That said, here's another waste of petroleum (but more a waste of time):




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Old 04-18-2008, 02:51 PM   #6
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Another Global Warming thread. Uh Oh, here we go again.....

Here we are, with May just over a week away and there are folks in Wisconsin freezing their hops off.



Funny thing since the earth has been cooling for decade, the GW alarmists are spinning it as Climate Change. Look outside, it's raining. Climate Change. Look outside 60 minutes later, the sun is shining. Oh no, climate Change.

Just follow the money on this. AlGore has his fingers all over it and is well positioned to rake in billions as his minions push for legislative mandates to use his companies and products.

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Old 04-18-2008, 02:55 PM   #7
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... and here we go again and again and again...

Here's the thing. There really isn't any debate that there's global warming. The only real question is the cause of it and what (if anything) to do about it. If you're trying to claim that there's no such thing as global warming... well, nothing I say is going to convince you otherwise.

While there are a vast number of signs pointing to warming, our historical data is inaccurate at best, so even to say it is warning is not quite fact. A very good, and most likely correct theory, but not fact.

My stance on the issue...we need more research before we do anything drastic that could topple our, or other, economies; or possibly even make the situation worse. For now, we just need to focus our studies on the issue and do little things like limit deforestation, recycle, plant new trees, limit carbon emissions, turn off your lights when you aren't in the room, drive high mileage cars, etc etc until we know.
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Just follow the money on this. AlGore has his fingers all over it and is well positioned to rake in billions as his minions push for legislative mandates to use his companies and products.
I just read somewhere or heard on the radio, Don't remember which that Al gore is finally admitting he is pulling in scores of cash off this.
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Im not sure about the GW but I do know that the push for solar/wind/geothermal/nuclear power can only bring good.
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Um, have YOU done any research? If you think that global warming and green products are "crap" then I would guess that you haven't either.

I can't stand people on either side of the debate who make unfounded unqualified absolute statements about the subject. I lie somewhere in the middle: the scaremongors like Al Gore are part of a concerted effort to frighten the people by cherry-picking facts and laying doomsday scenarios. The other side is populated largely by wholesale deniers who approach the issue with a position and then try to justify that position by ranting about hwo global warming is a myth.

What I can't figure out is why more people can't approach the issue with an open mind and no preconceptions and base their position on the facts and evidence. Both sides are guilty here.

Bingo, any person who cares to do their own research will see that, yes, the climate has indeed risen, but no, we're not all going to die tomorrow. Yes, there are some things we could change, but no, we dont have to give up every livelyhood in the process.


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