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Old 04-18-2008, 01:54 PM   #21
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Not really sure, but along the lines of what's been mentioned:
-Skip the secondary
-Get new tubing
-Pitch a starter (I personally haven't had any off-flavors since I've been making starters)

 
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Old 04-18-2008, 01:55 PM   #22
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Stoppers and tubing were my first thought (along with rinsing the PBW), as well. They are cheap fixes, too, if that if your problem.


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Old 04-18-2008, 02:09 PM   #23
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Your problem is that you are using PBW and or Star San and you are not rinsing well enough. I have had a lot of people ruin thier beer by not rinsing these cleaners off. IMHO I wouldn't use such expensive cleaners for normal use. They work well on stubborn stuff.

I can feel your pain. Let me send you a sample of my sanitizer/cleaner that works like hydrogen peroxide to sanitize and clean and you do not have to rinse.

I can send you a beer kit too, just to ease the pain of having lost all of that beer.
What kind of beer do you usually brew? It will be a simple beer as a test batch.

PM me your name and address. While you are waiting for your batch to arrive take a cap full of bleach per 5 gallons and "nuke" all of your plastics. Then rinse and rinse and rinse until you can't rinse any more to get rid of any bacteria and left over cleaners.

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Old 04-18-2008, 02:12 PM   #24
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Old 04-18-2008, 02:13 PM   #25
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wow...

I'm now officially getting my stuff from Austin Homebrew... What a community this is!!


 
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Old 04-18-2008, 02:22 PM   #26
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Jeez, I thought Northern Brewer was cool for giving me a gift certificate for a bad grain crush, AHBS FTW!!!!!!!!!!

 
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Old 04-18-2008, 02:51 PM   #27
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Forrest get 9000 PMs. lol
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Old 04-18-2008, 03:10 PM   #28
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It's awesome to see a shop step up like that Forest! Props to you.

My first thought is also on tubing and stoppers or not rinsing the PBW enough. Definitely take Forest up on his offer and suggestion and try a simple batch with some simple changes.

One other idea that I have heard of before. If you brew indoors try turning off your furnace/AC while you brew until your carboy is sealed. Some people have reported this helped because their furnace was actually blowing mold spores into the air that were infecting the beer.
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Old 04-18-2008, 03:19 PM   #29
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One other idea that I have heard of before. If you brew indoors try turning off your furnace/AC while you brew until your carboy is sealed. Some people have reported this helped because their furnace was actually blowing mold spores into the air that were infecting the beer.
that was another thought I had - that there's something "extra special" in the air, a source of lots of wild yeast (lots of fruit or plants nearby?). Didn't think about mold.

I keep a fruit bowl in my kitchen, and also a small bin for compost. The compost bin gets taken to the garage during brew sessions (and the kitchen aired out). I don't worry about the fruit bowl unless I think there's something going bad in it.

I also make sure the kitchen's clean before I start. I don't freak out about it or anything, but I do make sure all the dirty dishes are clean, the counters wiped down (with my starsan in a spray bottle solution) and maybe even scrub out the sink.
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Old 04-18-2008, 03:48 PM   #30
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Damn, now I know where to go if I need to order anything online

Forrest, when you say you would only use Starsan on stubborn stuff, is it really that powerful? What's the cleaner you use instead? I just started using Its Bubbliness because I wanted a no rinse sanitizer, but if there's a cheaper one that does just as good of a job if not better...
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