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Old 04-14-2008, 09:13 PM   #1
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Ok, I did my first AG last night. Light grain bill (7.5 pounds) and split pot stovetop boil, but AG none the less.

My "false bottom" is a vegetable steamer, so it's holes are a bit on the big side.

I vorlauf'ed like crazy, but still was getting grain pieces in the runnings. Finally gave up and dumped it into the brewpot. Not a lot of pieces, or large, but there none the less.

1) will this cause astringency in the final product?
2) what can I do next time - a braid or better false bottom? I really don't want to spend a ton of money on this...

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Ok, I did my first AG last night. Light grain bill (7.5 pounds) and split pot stovetop boil, but AG none the less.

My "false bottom" is a vegetable steamer, so it's holes are a bit on the big side.

I vorlauf'ed like crazy, but still was getting grain pieces in the runnings. Finally gave up and dumped it into the brewpot. Not a lot of pieces, or large, but there none the less.

1) will this cause astringency in the final product?
2) what can I do next time - a braid or better false bottom? I really don't want to spend a ton of money on this...

TIA...
Veggie steamers holes are a bit too big.

I think your beer will be fine if we're not talking but more than a 1/2 cup or so of grains.

For less than $45 you can make yourself a true mash tun using a cooler and some spare copper parts.


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Old 04-14-2008, 09:20 PM   #3
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Dude, a braid setup is ultra-cheap and provides great results for a large number of us.

If you're talking like 10 husks/bits or something, you're probably fine. If there are enought to fill a few ladels full of bits - you might be in trouble but even then it's probably not as much as one would think. Not matter how much I vorlauf, I always end up with a bunch crap floating around the top of the boil. I try to get as many as I can, but eventually they either float up with the foam and stick to the side, or end up in the sludge at the bottom.
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it was a lot of little pieces - I have no idea how much it'd be if it were seperated from the wort. I guess I'll look into the stainless braid.

a follow up question - it seems like everyone wants to get SS ball valves for this, but what's wrong w/using a brass valve from home depot?
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You can even use a plastic valve like Denny it will make just as good a beer as the stainless valve
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Mine's plastic as well. Actually - mine is just a copper tube shoved through a carboy stopper with a plastic clamp about halfway down the hose on the outside and a braid on the inside.
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You can even go NO valve if you thread the output tubing up through the cooler's handle while you're holding your mash.
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I made my Mashtun for about $35 using teh $20 50Qt Igloo and brass valve. You could even ditch the valve temporarily (or permanently) and run the hose out like mentioned above with a clamp to close it during the mash.
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I use one exactly like Denny Conn and it has been working quite well for 2 years.
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I use the brass valve as well but to be honest I wouldn't see any reason why you couldn't use plastic/pvc for this and it would be cheaper. I recommend a valve however, I think it just makes things easier, sure you can use a clamp but you can also just get a valve for a few bucks.


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