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Old 04-09-2008, 04:29 AM   #1
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First time i'm gunna brew without a kit. Gunna be a very bitter and floral IPA.

Here's what i got:

2 x 3.3lb Cooper's Light LME
1 lb UK Crystal malt
1 oz Galena (12.2%, bittering at start)
1 oz Wilamette (4.6%, continuous through boil)
1 oz Cascade (5.1%, finishing)
1 oz Cascade (5.1%, Dry hop)
Wyeast 1056

Sound OK to you guys? Anything i should re-arrange or change?


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Old 04-09-2008, 04:37 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by vav
First time i'm gunna brew without a kit. Gunna be a very bitter and floral IPA.

Here's what i got:

2 x 3.3lb Cooper's Light LME
1 lb UK Crystal malt
1 oz Galena (12.2%, bittering at start)
1 oz Wilamette (4.6%, continuous through boil)
1 oz Cascade (5.1%, finishing)
1 oz Cascade (5.1%, Dry hop)
Wyeast 1056

Sound OK to you guys? Anything i should re-arrange or change?
with that addition of extract you will be sitting at 1.042 which is way low for what you want, I suggest 3X the coopers which will have you at 1.072 and after that it looks damn tastey.


Here is a Run through of beersmith it will give you a good Idea.

Vav's IPA
Brew Type: Extract Date: 4/9/2008
Style: American IPA Brewer: VAV
Batch Size: 5.00 gal Assistant Brewer:
Boil Volume: 6.41 gal Boil Time: 60 min
Equipment: Brew Pot (7.5 gal) and Igloo Cooler (10 Gal)
Taste Rating (50 possible points): 35.0

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
6.60 lb Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 60.55 %
3.30 lb Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 30.28 %
1.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 30L (30.0 SRM) Grain 9.17 %
1.00 oz Galena [12.00 %] (60 min) Hops 37.1 IBU
1.00 oz Williamette [4.60 %] (60 min) Hops 14.2 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Cascade [5.00 %] (5 min) Hops 3.1 IBU

Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.072 SG (1.056-1.075 SG) Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.018 SG (1.010-1.018 SG) Measured Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Color: 12.4 SRM (6.0-15.0 SRM) Color [Color]
Bitterness: 54.5 IBU (40.0-65.0 IBU) Alpha Acid Units: 16.6 AAU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 7.01 % (5.50-7.50 %) Actual Alcohol by Volume: 0.65 %
Actual Calories: 43 cal/pint


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Old 04-09-2008, 04:44 AM   #3
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Where did you get that wonderful toy?

And i was thinking it might not have been enough malt for what i wanted....i want a large IPA like the Founder's Centennial.

Thanks for that rundown, i think tomorrow i'll go pickup another 3.3 of malt, and maybe another ounce of hops...
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:49 AM   #4
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Where did you get that wonderful toy?

And i was thinking it might not have been enough malt for what i wanted....i want a large IPA like the Founder's Centennial.

Thanks for that rundown, i think tomorrow i'll go pickup another 3.3 of malt, and maybe another ounce of hops...

www.beersmith.com
www.promash.com

Take your pick, You get that extra can of extract it will be a big beer, or you can go bigger but you'll want to add more hops. ALSO!!! with a big beer you need to make a starter!
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:53 AM   #5
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www.promash.com

Take your pick, You get that extra can of extract it will be a big beer, or you can go bigger but you'll want to add more hops. ALSO!!! with a big beer you need to make a starter!
Thanks man, i'll pick up the rest tomorrow and brew, and then update.
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Old 04-09-2008, 02:34 PM   #6
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Founder's Centennial might have Centennial Hops in it?
Just a guess, I had one last night and it could have been centennial or cascade or any combination of american ipa hops.
great beer though.
1 lb of english crystal will give it a slightly more caramel/sweet flavor than Founders I'm guessing.

 
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Founder's Centennial might have Centennial Hops in it?
Just a guess, I had one last night and it could have been centennial or cascade or any combination of american ipa hops.
great beer though.
1 lb of english crystal will give it a slightly more caramel/sweet flavor than Founders I'm guessing.
No Centennial at the LHBS, sub'd Willamette.

The crystal i went with more for color and mouthfeel, i figured the Galena at 12.2% would balance it out enough. It'll be tasty regardless, i'm sure
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Old 04-09-2008, 06:10 PM   #8
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Can i double up on the yeast to skip the starter?
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Old 04-09-2008, 06:27 PM   #9
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Not sure about the yeast, but the concensus is either make a starter or probably triple up on tubed yeast, especially if you're going the higher gravity route. Also, consider using the willamette for a flavoring hop, like 12 minutes from the end of your boil. The galena will provide enough bittering, and willamette is just fantastic tasting. You may want to reduce the crystal malt to around 3/4lb, to avoid overly sweet beer, or a masking of hop flavor. Good luck, sounds like a solid IPA for the coming warm weather(just did one myself) .

 
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Old 04-09-2008, 06:58 PM   #10
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Can i double up on the yeast to skip the starter?
You can double the yeast or you can wait a day it will save some $$ I dont think that the Crystal will make it too sweet nor do I think you even need it but if you want to use it it won't hurt.


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