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Old 03-28-2008, 04:05 PM   #1
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...and it's a pretty small tugboat...but...

I won a gift card for costco...what do you think of this?

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...=1&topnav=&s=1

might be what I need to make the jump to all grain. 54,000 btu enough though?


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Old 03-28-2008, 04:07 PM   #2
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Should work out fine, Just watch for the Hot break in that 30 Qt pot.


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Old 03-28-2008, 04:13 PM   #3
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That will do it for you. I have a 55K BTU burner and it gets the job done for 5-gallon batches. I'll get a bigger burner or upgrade the regulator when I jump to 10-gallon batches.

You might be able to find a better deal out there somewhere, though. I've seen Bayou Classic outdoor cooker kits with burner and 30-qt pot for $48 at a Home Depot near me. With that kit you are paying for the perforated inner basket, which you don't need for brewing.
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That will do it for you. I have a 55K BTU burner and it gets the job done for 5-gallon batches. I'll get a bigger burner or upgrade the regulator when I jump to 10-gallon batches.

You might be able to find a better deal out there somewhere, though. I've seen Bayou Classic outdoor cooker kits with burner and 30-qt pot for $48 at a Home Depot near me. With that kit you are paying for the perforated inner basket, which you don't need for brewing.
thanks to both of you. the costco one is "free" because of the gift card I won. It does seem a bit expensive for me - and I can see that I couldn't do a 10 gal batch...oh well...

what would be my maximum grain bill with a 30 qt pot?

let's see: 10 lb of grain =

@1.2 qts mash = 12 qt mash = 6 qts runnings
@2 qt sparge = 24 qts sparge water

= 30 qts.

looks like my max grain bill is probably 9 lbs?
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Old 03-28-2008, 04:33 PM   #5
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...strange, I couldn't find a counterflow wort chiller on costco's website...LOL
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thanks to both of you. the costco one is "free" because of the gift card I won. It does seem a bit expensive for me - and I can see that I couldn't do a 10 gal batch...oh well...

what would be my maximum grain bill with a 30 qt pot?

let's see: 10 lb of grain =

@1.2 qts mash = 12 qt mash = 6 qts runnings
@2 qt sparge = 24 qts sparge water

= 30 qts.

looks like my max grain bill is probably 9 lbs?
Your mash tun is a bigger constraint on the grain bill than the size of your boil pot. For a 30-qt pot, you can figure on a maximum wort collection of 24-26 quarts or so. With your boil volume fixed, you can figure out how much grain you need to use to hit your target gravity. Software, like BeerSmith or ProMash makes this task simple. If your mash tun isn't big enough to fit all that grain and water, then you are screwed. I highly recommend including a software package of some kind in your all grain plan (BeerSmith is only $20).

Your mash efficiency will make a big difference as well. The higher your efficiency the less grain you need to use to hit a target gravity. You can always supplement with a few pounds of DME if you have to.

FWIW, I used a 32-qt pot for several full boil batches. I would usually collect around 26 qts of wort and I never had a problem hitting my target gravities. I get a high efficiency from my rig, though.
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Your mash tun is a bigger constraint on the grain bill than the size of your boil pot. For a 30-qt pot, you can figure on a maximum wort collection of 24-26 quarts or so. With your boil volume fixed, you can figure out how much grain you need to use to hit your target gravity. Software, like BeerSmith or ProMash makes this task simple. If your mash tun isn't big enough to fit all that grain and water, then you are screwed. I highly recommend including a software package of some kind in your all grain plan (BeerSmith is only $20).

Your mash efficiency will make a big difference as well. The higher your efficiency the less grain you need to use to hit a target gravity. You can always supplement with a few pounds of DME if you have to.

FWIW, I used a 32-qt pot for several full boil batches. I would usually collect around 26 qts of wort and I never had a problem hitting my target gravities. I get a high efficiency from my rig, though.
I"ve got a 5 gallon round cooler as a mash tun. I think that maxes out around 14 lb or so?
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I"ve got a 5 gallon round cooler as a mash tun. I think that maxes out around 14 lb or so?
14# might be too much for that cooler. I have a 7-gallon round cooler MLT and I try not go over 15#, but I also want room for a mashout.

Here is a set of online calculators that might help you. Scroll down for the Can I Mash It? calculator to see what will fit in your tun. I entered 14# and 1 qt water / pound of grain and it tells me that will take up 4.62 gallons of space.
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Old 03-28-2008, 05:46 PM   #9
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looks like my MLT maxes out about 12lb or so. the 30 qt pot would probably max out about 10 lb anyway:

10 lb grain = 10 qt (min) for mash = 5 qts runnings
.5 gal sparge x 10 = 20 qts

25 qt total.

maybe could go to 12 lb:

12 lb grain = 12 qt mash = 6 qt runnings

.5 gal sparge x 12 = 24 qt sparge

= 30 qts.

yeah, I'd max out about 11 lb either way.
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Old 03-28-2008, 05:48 PM   #10
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I got my turkey fryer at Home Depot for $38.

If I were you, I would buy the turkey fryer at HD and spend the giftcard on any other homebrew related things you could get at costco....or just anything else you need in general. It might be a wiser way to spend that gift card.



 
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