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Old 03-19-2008, 01:46 AM   #1
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And the judges were not to impresses with the Doppebock and the Dunkel. This is the Dunkel that Ray raved about at Glib's party. It was considered to dry for the style. The Bock was just considered run-of the mill. Both beers got around 30 points out of the 50. They actually liked the warmth (hint of higher alcohols) in the Bock. And this is one thing I definitely want to subdue even further. I think a well brewed Bock should not show significant higher alcohols.

Now I really have to go to Germany and load up my memory with the taste of these beer styles.

I guess I'll keep tuning the beers to match the taste that I have in mind and occasionally enter a competition. Maybe they do well maybe they don't. But what I really would love to do, is entering in a German homebrew competition. I think that this would give me the most valuable feedback.

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Old 03-19-2008, 02:18 AM   #2
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At least you tried. Does it really matter what the judges think if you think it's an excellent beer? (I guess it does if you want to win competitions). I think the judging process for beer can be subjective and while one group of judges might review a beer one way, at another competition they could be scored differently.

Good Luck on your future entries.


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Old 03-19-2008, 03:11 AM   #3
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F*** the judges! Here is to just having the brass to enter in the first place.
Good luck on future beers.
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Old 03-19-2008, 03:27 AM   #4
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F*** the judges! Here is to just having the brass to enter in the first place.
Good luck on future beers.
I wodn't choose such harsh words. I think they are doing their best and donating their free time for this. It's just by design that this is a subjective process.

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Old 03-19-2008, 04:11 AM   #5
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well alright. As long as you are ok with it. I have never been known to be gentle when Iím dealing with something that I donít like/disagree with.
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Old 03-19-2008, 04:20 AM   #6
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i'm thinking about entering my first competition. i'm hoping to get some good feedback like yours. do all of the entries get a "scorecard" that they send to you, or just the best ones?
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Old 03-19-2008, 07:01 AM   #7
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i'm thinking about entering my first competition. i'm hoping to get some good feedback like yours. do all of the entries get a "scorecard" that they send to you, or just the best ones?
good luck if you decide to enter. Yes all entries get a scorecard.
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Old 03-19-2008, 03:46 PM   #8
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It's just by design that this is a subjective process.

Kai
Could not agree more. It's funny, in the end of last year I brewed Octoberfest. And there was something wrong with it. I could not really say what exactly but it was really different beer compare to, say, Spaten example. So, in a hope for a good feedback I enter a hb competition and get a 1st place with this beer. The most valuable feedback was that my beer is a bit over carbonated and light in body for the style.
All I want to say is that you are the main juge for the beer you brew. But in the same time it worth it to have checked in competition from time to time.
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Old 03-19-2008, 03:52 PM   #9
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If you listen to Jamil's show on Bock he states that judges who look for alcohol warmth do not know what they are doing, well, it was close to that. a well made bock should not have noticible warmth.
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Old 03-19-2008, 03:59 PM   #10
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Kai:

Give this a read. It might provide some insight.
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=59401


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