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Old 02-21-2008, 01:57 AM   #1
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I was hoping for some help from some of you guys with changing a few things on a recipe I came across. The current recipe is as follows...

2 Gallon Boil

3.3 lbs Amber LME
3.3 lbs Light LME
0.75 oz EK Goldings 60 min
0.75 oz EK Fuggles 60 min
0.25 oz EK Goldings 15 min
1.5 oz EK Goldings 5 min

Dry Hopped with .75 oz EKG


I would like to try this style of beer but with a 3 gallon boil instead of 2 (don't know how that changes IBU's and AA's) and wanted to use DME instead of LME.

Can anyone help?
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Old 02-21-2008, 02:02 AM   #2
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I don't think the boil size will be much of an issue, especially since you didn't list the AAUs of the hops. I think it'll be fine with a slightly larger volume- you're only talking about 1 gallon more.

As far as DME, you could use 5 pounds or 5.5 pounds of DME. 5 pounds would give you 1.044, 5.5 pounds 1.048.
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:47 PM   #3
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According to the calculator on Tastybrew.com:

Two Gallon Boil, using 6.6lbs of DME:

Stats
OG 1.059
FG 1.015
IBU 35
ABV 5.7 %
SRM 7

Specifics
Boil Volume 2 gallons
Batch Size 5 gallons
Yeast 75% AA


3 Gallon boil:


Stats
OG 1.059
FG 1.015
IBU 42
ABV 5.7 %
SRM 7

Specifics
Boil Volume 3 gallons
Batch Size 5 gallons
Yeast 75% AA


The long and the short of it is this: If you use a three gallon boil, it will be more bitter. 35 IBU vs 42 IBU


If you use DME vs LME it will have a higher alcohol content. YooperBrew's comments on the amount of DME to use are correct and that will changes the bitterness some. However the point is still that on a 3 gallon brew, it will be more bitter.


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Old 02-21-2008, 11:27 PM   #4
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Something is wrong with the numbers. 3.3 lbs. of DME will not yeild 1.059 on a 5 gallon batch.

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:21 PM   #5
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Total of 6.6 pounds of DME, not 3.3. Two different color extracts. A typo on my part. Sorry.



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Old 02-22-2008, 04:12 PM   #6
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I appreciate the help guys. My reasoning for going with a 3 gallon boil vs 2 gallons is that I wanted the beer to come out a little lighter. And I was also going to add the DME as a late addition to keep it light in color.
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Old 02-22-2008, 04:22 PM   #7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by benxrow2002
I appreciate the help guys. My reasoning for going with a 3 gallon boil vs 2 gallons is that I wanted the beer to come out a little lighter. And I was also going to add the DME as a late addition to keep it light in color.
You're going to add some extract for the boil though aren't you? I wouldn't boil the hops in water and add all the DME at the end.

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 04:38 PM   #8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gedvondur
Total of 6.6 pounds of DME, not 3.3. Two different color extracts. A typo on my part. Sorry.



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Isn't the usual practice to convert 1 lbs LME to 0.8 lbs DME to keep SG, ABV and body/mouthfeel/taste roughly the same?

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 05:42 PM   #9
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I do 1.5 gal boils and add only 1 lb of DME to the boil as well as all the bittering hops per the recipes schedule. Boil 45 mins, remove form heat.

Add all remaining malts (add DME 1 lb at a time and dissolve before adding the next lb in) then let streep for 15 mins.

I also place a net over my primary bucket which catches all the hops from going into the bucket.

Then top off to 5.25 gals with very cold water.
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Old 02-22-2008, 08:01 PM   #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blender
You're going to add some extract for the boil though aren't you? I wouldn't boil the hops in water and add all the DME at the end.
Yes.....half the DME up front and the rest with about 15 minutes left in the boil.

Trying to keep all of my extract brews from coming out the same color...LOL
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