Originally Posted by Yavid
I stopped by my local home brew store to pickup everything I need to make this beer but I had to make a few substitutions due to not being able to find some ingredients. My subs are as follows:
Fuggles hops for goldings
crystal/caramel malt for carapils (store owner subbed and I didn't notice until I got home)
WYeast 1968 London ESB for WYeast 1272 American Ale II
Does this sound alright or did I screw up? I also couldn't find the American Special Roast Malt. The store owner recommended Victory Malt but I decided I'd check for a few "second opinions" first. Any ideas?
They subbed you alright... They gave you a different beer.
Fuggles for Goldings is ok the alpha acids are about the same and flavors are both mild & pleasant
The 1968 ESB will work but 1056 would have been better sub for 1272.
The carapils & crystal sub should work too. Assuming he picked a low lovibond like 5 or 10.
Regarding the Special Roast & Victory. Special roast is twice as dark as victory. Victory is not the best substitute. If he has Melanoidin, I would try that for the special roast it will add some maltiness and red color.
I didn't realize this, I have been told victory & biscuit are about the same, so what did he want to give you for the biscuit?
If you have all the ingredients I'd go ahead and brew it up. Its not gonna be the same beer but it will probably turn out nice. I not sure if it will be red though if you can't add Special Roast or Melanoidin. If he has neither sub 40-60L Crystal Malt or CaraMunich. I'd do the CaraMunich over the crystal malt.
You might ask yourself if you like the shop because he subbed 4 of the 7 ingredients!! He essentially created a different beer for you. How willing were you to go along with him? I would have asked that he get these ingredients. None are really out of line or all that unusual. If he doesn't have special roast I wonder if he'll have melanoidin or caramunich.
As for the use of the grain, bag it and drop it in 2.0 gallons of cold water bring it up to 150-160F and hold the temp for about 30 minutes then yank it out lettting it drip and don't squeeze the bag. Bring your wort to a boil (KILL THE HEAT) add the extract (mixing really well to prevent burning the extract), bring to a boil again, add 1st bit of hops and start timing. Add the last hops at the last 5 minutes.
If you got more Q's let me know.