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Old 02-07-2008, 07:19 PM   #1
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I have brewed 6-7 extract kits and they have all had a sharp metallic, over the top bitterness to them. Some have suggested it will disappear over time. I have 3-4 month old beers that I stored cool and cold, and still have the taste.

I do boil in aluminum--the SS kettle is on its way.
I have tried using Culligan water thinking it was a ph problem...no help there.
Going all grain in the next month.

So, How long are you supposed to wait?
Do you store cold/cool/warm?
Any other tips/tricks?


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Old 02-07-2008, 07:39 PM   #2
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The general accepted rule of thumb is 1-2-3

1 week primary
2 weeks secondary
3 weeks in the bottle


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Old 02-07-2008, 09:40 PM   #3
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I've had beers that tasted "green" up to 6 months and then after that, they were awesome. One other question, do you put your carboy anyplace that there is a lot of light?

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Well, a metallic taste is different than over the top bitterness. Bitterness subsides with time but I am not sure what to tell you on the metallicness. What kind of aluminum pot are you using? That may very well be the problem.
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I use an aluminum pot and have never had metallic issues.
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:12 AM   #6
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I thought 3 weeks to a month was long enough but I can hold on to them longer to see what happens.
My fermenters are plastice buckets...and they do not sit in direct sunlight...they do sit out in the open in a back room that is unheated.
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Old 02-08-2008, 06:42 AM   #7
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The aluminum kettle is almost assuredly not the cause, especially if you are protecting the oxide layer (dull stuff) inside.

The phantom bitter-metallic off flavour is a wierd one that crops up from time to time, and I have yet to hear an explanation. It even got discussed in a fairly recent podcast by Jamil Zainasheff, and he said it has happened to him and was speculating wildly about the cause. I have not experienced it, but my brother in law has had it happen. It often just goes away as quick as it came. I would love to figure this one out. IIRC, I think Jamil was suggesting oxidation was the cause, although the explanation clearly didn't register with me because I can't repeat it.
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I've had it happen to me, but only on one batch that was a kit. I decided that it was from old LME in the kit that had possibly been oxidized. I have never had the problem since going AG, or even after kicking kits to the curb. I could never find a cause and eventually tossed it after about 8 months becuase I needed the bottles.

I don't think it was post brewing oxidation because it tasted like that at bottling, still tasted that way after carbing up, and still after months, that's why I thought maybe old extract in the kits, but if Jamil has the problem, that's probably not it either, since I doubt he's making many kits using LME.
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liquid or dry malt? liquid may be causing it if its from a can.
I notice my harsh bitterness in some beers usually goes away after 6 weeks from the boil.
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I have brewed 6-7 extract kits and they have all had a sharp metallic, over the top bitterness to them. Some have suggested it will disappear over time. I have 3-4 month old beers that I stored cool and cold, and still have the taste.

I do boil in aluminum--the SS kettle is on its way.
I have tried using Culligan water thinking it was a ph problem...no help there.
Going all grain in the next month.

So, How long are you supposed to wait?
Do you store cold/cool/warm?
Any other tips/tricks?
im not really sure about your asking but i can say u still like your beer go figure id find you on a beer website Talk later Alison


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