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Old 03-05-2013, 01:29 PM   #261
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Hey guys, just tasted a batch of Pale Ale I made. It is going to a beer club pouring at a local brewery tomorrow, so to make sure it was crystal clear I put a a small amount of gelatin in the keg to clear it. Poured it last night and it was crystal clear, but I believe the gelatin had stripped all the hop flavor and aroma away!! It taste just like a very bitter, watered down bud light! I made 11 gallons, so I cooled down the second keg of it (which didn't have gelatin added to it) to try as well to see how it turned out. I am hoping it was just the gelatin one and not the whole batch. I threw an ounce of Citra and an ounce of Cascade in the keg to dry hop with, but it's sitting at 40* in the kegerator and is supposed to be poured tomorrow at 7pm so don't think that is enough time for anything to happen with the dry hopping.

So on the trouble shooting end, if it wasn't the gelatin what could have caused this? I am having trouble remembering what yeast I used, it was either US-05 or WLP051, which the WLP051 I haven't been impressed with at all. Claimed to be "slightly more fruity", but I haven't picked up any fruity esters at all. My house has been sitting around mid to upper 60's, which is about right for both styles of yeast. Other than the yeast, I am stumped! It seems everytime I brew beer to give out at events something always goes wrong! This beer was brewed the end of Jan, so just over a month now. Wouldn't think the hop flavor and aroma would escape that fast.



 
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:08 PM   #262
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I've used gelatin many times and never noticed lacking flavor or aroma. Watered down taste likely means its not the yeast or the hops. Do you do all grain or extract? How did your volumes and gravity match up? Did you follow the recipe?



 
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:44 PM   #263
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Mojzis - I do BIAB All-Grain. My volumes and gravity both came in a little lower than expected, but still had a 68% efficiency. Mashed 154. It may have been my palate a little off, due to the fact I came from a buddy's house drinking some IPA's and just had some spicy gumbo for dinner, but it didn't have the hoppiness flavor and aroma it usually has. It was all bitterness.

 
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:17 PM   #264
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Kegged and have been drinking mine for about a week. I didn't do any clarifying other than a cold crash before transferring off secondary.

Mine's cloudy, but slowly gets clearer with every pour. Tastes delicious - a satisfying typical pale ale bitter note with a nice floral aftertaste and smell from the Centennial. I used leaf because that's what I had; next time will certainly be with pellets and I'll try the gelatin. I don't mind the cloudiness, but it seems to freak others out.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:21 PM   #265
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Mojzis - I do BIAB All-Grain. My volumes and gravity both came in a little lower than expected, but still had a 68% efficiency. Mashed 154. It may have been my palate a little off, due to the fact I came from a buddy's house drinking some IPA's and just had some spicy gumbo for dinner, but it didn't have the hoppiness flavor and aroma it usually has. It was all bitterness.
Give it another try before you have spicy food or an ipa. I know everytime I switch from ipa to pale ale I think the aroma and flavor is low.

What were your gravities?

 
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:30 PM   #266
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O.G. 1.054. F.G. 1.01. ABV - 5.9%. I used a little more MO (why I have a higher O.G. and still a 68% effic), as I was expecting a lower effic. as it was my first 11 gallon batch.

 
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:08 PM   #267
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I brewed this beer 2 weeks ago and instead of boiling for 90 minutes, I boiled for 60 minutes. The beer is drastically lighter in color, but still tastes pretty good. It was my first all grain, so I was wondering if it was lighter in color because of the of the shorter boil? The O.G was 1.047 and according to the recipe it was supposed to be 1.054.

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Old 03-06-2013, 10:54 PM   #268
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I brewed this beer 2 weeks ago and instead of boiling for 90 minutes, I boiled for 60 minutes. The beer is drastically lighter in color, but still tastes pretty good. It was my first all grain, so I was wondering if it was lighter in color because of the of the shorter boil? The O.G was 1.047 and according to the recipe it was supposed to be 1.054.

Any ideas?
There should not be a "drastic" difference between a 60 and 90 boil in terms of the color.

 
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:54 PM   #269
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I tasted my first Kona Pale ale last weekend and really liked it. The thing that jumped out at me most was the hop aroma and water minerality.

Does anyone have any recommendation about how much ppm of SO4 to look for?

At first taste, I'm thinking between 150-225ppm.

Looks like a pretty solid recipe.

 
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:29 AM   #270
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Brewed this Saturday-used the Wyeth smack-pack German Ale (a good date--late Feb) but in 3-4 hours it barely puffed up at all. Sunday morning the carboy was dead. Luckily I managed to find a supplier open Easter Sunday. Keeping my fingers crossed.....



 
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