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Old 01-16-2008, 04:04 PM   #1
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Apparently, actual crime against person and property has been solved once and for all here in the Great Commonwealth---meaning our legislators now have time to take on the smaller stuff...
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:18 PM   #2
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That sounds like something they'd do in the other commonwealth too. I never got the idea anyway. Just looks "please pardon the non pc comment" GAY.

oh yeah, nice to see you got your name back.
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:24 PM   #3
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I've never seen it and I think it does look stupid really, but it's not my place to move to ban them.

No lawmaker with a nut sack should support this law - any more that they should support laws to ban those big foam fingers at sports arenas - they're BOTH anatomy - deal with it.

That said, Virginia already has some crazy F-ed up laws - I actually feel nervous driving on Virginia roads because of how abusively they enforce traffic laws (admittedly) because it's a HUGE source if income for the State.

Run a red light (putting people in danger) and you're fined $95. Drive by yourself on I-66 at 4:30 to pick up your wife - $125 for the first time $250 the second, $500 the third, $1000 the fourth... Really... If it was THAT bad, wouldn't you loose your license after a while? Nope - violate that one as often as you like without loosing your ability to do it again - subsequent offenses are each $1000.

Virginia already bans certain kinds of taillights and license plate frames - I know from personal experience one I bought was illegal:

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Old 01-16-2008, 04:26 PM   #4
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Yeah, I'd not be caught dead with one of those things on my car...but come on. This is the same douche who tried to outlaw baggy pants, so I shouldn't be surprised.

And no, you don't have any inherent "right" to not see vulgar things.
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:38 PM   #5
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Your Virgina tax dollars at work. After all, it's a Commonwealth, meaning your money is his money.

 
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Old 01-16-2008, 07:02 PM   #6
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After all, it's a Commonwealth, meaning your money is his money.
Without going into details, I did research on the subject and technically there are only three things in the US - States, Federal Holdings and territories.

The official difference between a Commonwealth and a State is that the word "Commonwealth" is used in the state constitution rather than "State". Texas gets some "perks" because it was once an Independant Republic but it's still legally classed as a state. :P

The "your money is my money" comes from all-around liberalism at the local, state and federal levels.
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Old 01-17-2008, 01:31 PM   #7
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And no, you don't have any inherent "right" to not see vulgar things.
Really? Wouldn't people be allowed to display pornography then?


The balls are rather stupid looking (like someone is stuck in the 5th grade), and the lawyer is even less impressive...

 
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Old 01-17-2008, 03:46 PM   #8
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Really? Wouldn't people be allowed to display pornography then?
It's got nothing to do with an individual's "rights" not to be exposed to certain things.

What's happened is that we've given control of the roads over to public bodies, in effect giving them the authority to regulate those roads and what we do on them. Rather than individual rights, this is about what we allow the gubmint to restrict, as citizens---not about our supposed "right" to not see vulgar things. I personally find OBX stickers to be vulgar and offensive, but nobody's outlawing them. The fact is, there is no objective definition of vulgarity.

My point was that our stupid culture has gotten this idea in their head that they have all of these "rights" (the right not to be offended, the right to be exposed to mean people, etc), when in reality, their rights end where others' rights begin. Not to get to philosophical here, but the concept of "rights" means that I have the freedom to do X...not the freedom from Y. We've given the State the power to regulate certain things, thus restricting those rights, but the idea that you have the "right" to be free from things that offend you is absurd.
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:09 PM   #10
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Well said Evan! This goes a long with the "no Smoking in cars" policy that people are trying to enact. I don't smoke and I never smoked in my car when i did, but that doesn't mean that i want the government to be able to tell me what i can and can't do in (or to) my car. It is just one more step to letting them into every aspect of our lives.

I think that the real debate here is where do the Governments rights begin and end? What gives them the right to try and enact policy that will further control what i can and can't do? As far as i am concerned their rights end at my property line. (or car door)
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