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Old 01-16-2008, 04:31 AM   #1
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My best friend and I just brewed our first beer in the kit he got for chiristmas. He got the whole setup, with 2 buckets, airlock, syphon, bottler, bottle capper, brushes, etc. His parents even bought him a pale ale ingrediant kit. Even though we prefer porters, stouts, and double bocks.
So I guess the point is, he has most of the stuff that isnt too expensive, I figured for 100 bucks I could buy some Carboys and stuff, and get something going on at my house too. He is my next door neigbor, so travel time for supplies is pretty small.
I was just wondering with my hundred bucks or so, should I buy carboys or buckets and more ingrediants or kits?


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Old 01-16-2008, 04:44 AM   #2
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As an update, the things im tossing on the 2 are ease of use, and quality of beer. How much of a pain in the ass is it to move a carboy. Im sure there are tricks, but it has to weigh a crapload, and if it broke, that would be horrible.


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Old 01-16-2008, 04:48 AM   #3
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IMHO I got a great kit to start with from Midwest brewing. It is their starter kit with 2 buckets and a carboy. I got this one since I figured it would be a way to do some secondary fermenting as well as having the option to move all better bottle/carboy. Since i had to ship to MA it cost 20 bucks shipping, so it was exactly 100 dollars for the kit. It has everything you need to brew other than the recipe ingredients themselves
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:11 AM   #4
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As an update, the things im tossing on the 2 are ease of use, and quality of beer. How much of a pain in the ass is it to move a carboy. Im sure there are tricks, but it has to weigh a crapload, and if it broke, that would be horrible.
Get a carboy hauler for carrying your carboys. It makes easy for one or two to safely carry your carboys.

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Old 01-16-2008, 07:31 AM   #5
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If you intend to transport your fermenters around, I highly recommend getting the plastic Better Bottle carboys. They have most of the advantages of a bucket and a glass carboy, with few of the disadvantages. The biggest considerations would be that they won't leak like buckets tend to do, and they can't shatter and slice you up like glass will do (it is too easy to slip while moving one of those).

Having said this, I don't own a single better bottle (I use two buckets and seven carboys). But if I were in your situation, I wouldn't even think twice about it.

Also, FWIW, if you want to save some money on fermenters, don't bother with a secondary unless you are going to make a fruit beer or condition in the fermenter for longer than a month. They are highly over-rated for most beers, and often you are better off NOT using one.
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Old 01-16-2008, 02:41 PM   #6
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I agree to get Better Bottles instead of glass carboys. They are pretty much the same price.


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Old 01-16-2008, 03:16 PM   #7
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I would recommend making more beer first and watch Craigslist for cheaper carboys. Your brew will improve much more by experience than by having a carboy versus a bucket. Just my point of view.

I've only been brewing for a year and only had one problem (the o-ring broke in two) on last Sunday. I used teflon tape which kept a good seal until I could get by my lhbs (no luck at Home Depot). I now have a backup o-ring. Still brewing with the original bucket with no infections.
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Personally when I started I started out with one plastic primary bucket and a glass carboy. I also got with the kit some tubing, a bottling wand, big plastic spoon, some sanitizer and a coopers beer kit. It cost me 70$ at my local brew store. Extras I purchased were a table top capper which i think was either 25$ or 30$ and eventually an auto siphon which was maybe 12 bux if i recall.

Glass carboys are heavy as far as I lift mine is from the floor onto my brewing table when it is full. So if you plan on lugging it around the neighborhood or something you better hit the gym and lift some weights you gong to need the strength :P
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:49 PM   #9
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What are you brewing in? Full or partial boils? I don't see a pot or burner listed and if you are doing full boils I recommend a wort chiller as well.
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I prefer buckets for the ease of use, cost and safety. If you use glass carboys get a milk crate or Brewhauler to help you carry it and to protect it some. Better bottles are also a good option and I prefer them to glass.
I would not buy too many fermenters at this time but instead spend the money on ingredients. You can't drink carboys, and you need something to fill them with. As you start finding you want to brew more than you have room for then add some fermenters. I currently use 2 buckets and a carboy. I also have a 3rd bucket and a 6gal BB that is used for wine and mead.
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