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Old 01-11-2008, 11:34 PM   #1
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So I am planning on doing my first all grain batch of beer as soon as i accumulate all of the necessary equipment, as well as completely understand the brewing process. Now i pretty much learned to brew through Charlie Papazian's "Joy of Home-Brewing vol. 3" When he talks about mash extract brewing he doesn't put much emphases, or any that I can recall on cooling the wort as quick as possible before adding it to the fermenter. However he puts cooling the wort at a very high priority when he talks about all grain brewing. So is it more important to do this when one is all grain brewing? And while I have your attention..........Are there any other ways of chilling wort quickly besides a copper wort chiller or ice baths?
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:36 PM   #2
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Even an ice bath wont cool a full boil very fast, you should really have a chiller when you are chilling 5-6 gallons of boiling hot wort.



 
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:40 PM   #3
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The cooling is important no matter how you make the wort. At the time of cooling both AG and extract are the same liquid. The wort chiller is mandatory.

 
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:57 PM   #4
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Not mandatory, but extremely helpful. It takes me about 45 minutes to cool 5 gallons of boiling wort to 70 degrees in my bathtub. Of course, I have very cold well water (approx 45 degrees in the winter). I have sped up the process by putting a frozen 2 liter soda bottle directly into the wort, but all the crackling scared the hell out of me. Thought the whole bottle might break and then I'd have 2 liters of unsanitized water in my wort. A chiller is very high on my wish list.

BTW, the reason Papazian doesn't mention cooling when talking about extract is because he's doing concentrated boils and dumping it into a fermentor of cold water. That'll cool your wort pretty quickly.

 
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Old 01-12-2008, 12:48 AM   #5
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"BTW, the reason Papazian doesn't mention cooling when talking about extract is because he's doing concentrated boils and dumping it into a fermentor of cold water. That'll cool your wort pretty quickly." yeah your right, that makes sense. So its looking like i might want to invest in a couple more items before I can take the plunge into AG brewing.

 
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Old 01-12-2008, 01:20 AM   #6
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An immersion chiller with 50F well water can get the wort to 70F in about 10 minutes. It's a good investment in terms of getting a better cold break, and saving time during the brew day.
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Old 01-12-2008, 02:00 AM   #7
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A basic immersion chiller is fairly cheap to buy/build, and the payoff is absolutely worth it. Rapid chilling inhibits contamination, enhances cold break coagulation, and saves lots of time.

 
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Old 01-12-2008, 04:48 AM   #8
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Agreed. You need at least an immersion chiller. They can cool the wort to pitching temp in about 10-15 minutes. I thought about a plate chiller, but didn't want to deal with the 'potential' clogging of the plates from the proteins, etc. in the wort. Go with either an immersion or a counter flow for cooling AG batches.



 
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