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Old 01-05-2008, 05:25 PM   #1
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I searched and really couldn't find any superb info on this.

I am going to try to piece together a nitro set-up I think. I already have a stout faucet, and in my research it looks like the only thing I need other than that is beer gas and a regulator.

1) I take it a nitrogen regulator is an entirely different animal than a CO2 regulator?

2) Regarding nitrogen--do you serve AND carbonate with beer gas or carbonate with C02 beforehand and then just serve with the beer gas?

I believe I can get a nitrogen tank from a buddy of mine for fairly cheap, so I'm mainly only on the hook for a regulator. Anyone seen great prices? I'm leaning on going with the one at Northern Brewer.
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Old 01-05-2008, 06:40 PM   #2
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Before you buy anything, go ask where you're going to fill which tank they support for beer gas. Some places, like PHX (Phoenix Welding Supplies- aka Dye Carbonic supplies most of the beverage gas in PHX) prefer that you use a CO2 tank and regulator.
Being able to use the same tanks and equipment is waaaay less of a hassel than having to drop off your beer gas tank for a fill.

Also this may come into play depending:
http://www.beveragefactory.com/draft.../adapter.shtml

I usually undercarb using CO2 and then pop on the beer gas to serve.
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Old 01-05-2008, 06:59 PM   #3
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I carb and serve on nitro. I use a length of tube with a diff stone on one end and connected to the gas in dip tube. I purge every other day or so for a week to introduce new gas into solution, then let it sit for a week. Works perfectly.

 
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Old 01-05-2008, 07:10 PM   #4
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I have a dual stage 175hp nitro setup, and I highly recommend it.












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Old 01-05-2008, 07:37 PM   #5
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Before you buy anything, go ask where you're going to fill which tank they support for beer gas. Some places, like PHX (Phoenix Welding Supplies- aka Dye Carbonic supplies most of the beverage gas in PHX) prefer that you use a CO2 tank and regulator.
Being able to use the same tanks and equipment is waaaay less of a hassel than having to drop off your beer gas tank for a fill.

Also this may come into play depending:
http://www.beveragefactory.com/draft.../adapter.shtml

I usually undercarb using CO2 and then pop on the beer gas to serve.
Ahhhhh.....interesting.

This might be cheaper than I imagined. The buddy of mine that I can get the tank from is incidentally the one who'd be filling the tank. They are the area's supplier for beer gas. Looks like I need to go see him. Thanks for the info!
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:01 PM   #7
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The local gas place makes a lot of difference as to what tank/reg you need. Local place here does beer gas but it has to be in a nitrogen tank that's painted black.
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Old 03-02-2008, 11:02 PM   #8
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So I called the local beer gas supplier, and they will allow me to use a CO2 tank to be filled with beer gas.

SO...is it safe to use a regular CO2 regulator with nitrogen? I know nitro regulators go up to a much higher psi, but I really won't need that, right?

I just want to know I'm doing this safely.
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:14 AM   #9
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Well, they sell CO2 regulator to nitrogen tank adapters on various beer sites so that implies to me that there isn't anything inherently unsafe about it. Pressures I think can approach 2000psi so make sure the regulator can handle that. Maybe someone else has a more definitive answer though. I think the only thing that makes a "nitrogen regulator" is that it has a 580 valve on it and maybe a slightly higher psi gauge.

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:11 AM   #10
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I would agree with paranode. The only difference between N2 regs and CO2 regs are the connection and the gauges. Much like primary and secondary regs.
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