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Old 01-02-2008, 11:50 AM   #1
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I'm going to try my first brew sometime this week. It's going to be very simple, partly because I don't have easy access to a brew store and I don't have enough patience to order more stuff.

I've got a can of Coopers Real Ale (3.75lb) LME and their yeast packet, and about 1.9lb of Muntons Extra Light DME (left over from my brother's recent batch).

The Coopers directions say to add 1kg of white sugar, but everything I've read says to use more malt instead. I'm not quite sure how much of the DME to add in place of the sugar. It seems like I should be ok using all of it, but that isn't very scientific.

The OG Coopers predicts is 1.042. Should I boil my extracts, then top off with tap water to reach 1.042?

 
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Old 01-02-2008, 12:07 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum!

Go ahead and use the remainder of the DME instead of sugar, the fermentables will be about the same and your beer will taste a lot better. Also, boil the extracts, and then top up with water to 5 gallons.
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Old 01-02-2008, 02:33 PM   #3
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boil the extracts
The OP probably knows this but just in case: mixed with some water.



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Old 01-02-2008, 07:38 PM   #4
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Made my first batch last weekend and have it in the primary bucket now. Had the same concern where the recipie that came with my kit called for brown surgar (7lbs Amber LME + 0.5lbs brown sugar I think was what it called for). Instructions said it would produce a 1.050 OG when topped off at 5G.

Based on what I'd read here, along with a general feeling that refined sugar didn't belong in my first batch of beer, I used 0.5lbs of amber DME instead. I'm not sure if it made the diference or if I messed up somewhere else (certainly possible as I stumbled through my first try) but my actual OG seemed to come out at 1.060 instead. DOPE, just realized I forgot to take a temp check when I went back and tested OG though so that could be big cause of error in the reading, at least that isn't a step that effects what goes on in my fermentation bucket.

I used an activator pack of 1028 London Ale yeast (no starter for this batch) and started getting bubbles every 3 seconds within 24 hours at around 65 degrees so the yeast certainly didn't seem to mind the substitution. Hopefully if my OG really was higher the yeast won't have a problem making something tasty with the extra sugars. Will have to wait a few more weeks I guess to find out

 
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Old 01-07-2008, 02:27 AM   #5
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Well, I started by brew on Wednesday and it seems to be going strong. I rehydrated the yeast as described in the "how to brew" book. I figured I'd ferment in my carboy and then transfer to the larger bucket to bottle. My OG was 1.046.

By 12 hours in it was bubbling rapidly, and by 18 hours it was pushing foam out the airlock. I switched from a bubbler type over to a blow-off hose instead. Maybe I should have fermented in the bucket?

So now I'm wondering if I need to rack to a secondary for awhile before bottling. Looks like there is lots of info about that question here, so I'm reading up.

 
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Old 01-07-2008, 02:34 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by oddsock
...So now I'm wondering if I need to rack to a secondary for awhile before bottling. Looks like there is lots of info about that question here, so I'm reading up.
Leave it in the primary for at least 10 days. You have a heavy enough beer (1.060) that the yeast will need to clean up after themselves in the primary. After that...go ahead and secondary for 2 weeks, then bottle.

And as for bottling...my mantra:

3 weeks at 70 degrees
3 weeks at 70 degrees
3 weeks at 70 degrees
3 weeks at 70 degrees
3 weeks at 70 degrees

No less...no cooler.

Don't be one of those posts in two weeks complaining that your beer is flat.


 
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Old 01-07-2008, 12:34 PM   #7
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Leave it in the primary for at least 10 days. You have a heavy enough beer (1.060) that the yeast will need to clean up after themselves in the primary. After that...go ahead and secondary for 2 weeks, then bottle.

And as for bottling...my mantra:

3 weeks at 70 degrees
3 weeks at 70 degrees
3 weeks at 70 degrees
3 weeks at 70 degrees
3 weeks at 70 degrees

No less...no cooler.

Don't be one of those posts in two weeks complaining that your beer is flat.
But I want to drink it NOW!! A few bottles may mysteriously disappear before 3 weeks is up...

The room my fermenter is in is about 70-75F. My OG was actually only 1.046, not 1.060, that was CarbonRiver's batch. I didn't adjust for temp though.

Does your advice for timing still apply with the lower OG?

 
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:26 PM   #8
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i have recently put down an ale and the lhbs told me recipe 3 in sugar dextrose multidextron and malt wheather that means anything to yu guys (maybe different scientific names/recipe numbers in australia)

 
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Old 01-07-2008, 04:16 PM   #9
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Does your advice for timing still apply with the lower OG?
Yep you will still need roughly 3 weeks to get carbonation in the bottles.

 
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Old 01-24-2008, 10:15 AM   #10
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So I racked from my primary to the bottling bucket today. No trouble moving the beer, I don't think I got much yeast with it.

I had planned to leave the it to settle in the bucket for a day before bottling, but now I've realized that I forgot to put the sugar solution in the bucket before racking....

I've read that you shouldn't stir the sugar into the beer because of oxygen getting into it, so I guess I'm going to rack to another bucket tomorrow when I have time, then bottle.

Would it have been ok to rack onto the priming sugar and leave it for a day to settle before bottling? Or is that day not needed at all?

 
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