First IPA is Harsh! - Home Brew Forums

Register Now!
Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Beginners Beer Brewing Forum > First IPA is Harsh!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-31-2007, 03:30 AM   #1
chase
 
chase's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Aug 2007
Urbana, IL
Posts: 370
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts



I just bottled my first IPA. It was NB's Three Hearted Ale extract kit. Here are the ingredients:

Specialty Grains
* 1 lbs. Briess Caramel 40
Fermentables
* 9.15 lbs. Gold Malt Syrup
Boil Additions
* 1 oz. Centennial (60 min)
* 1 oz. Centennial (20 min)
* 2 oz. Centennial (5 min)
Special Ingredients
* 1 oz. Centennial Hops (dry hop)
Yeast
* Wyeast #1084 Irish Ale Yeast.

OG 1.064
FG 1.020

I bottled it on Dec. 19. I opened one today to see if it was carbonated. It was, but it was really harsh. The bitter was really bitter and the sweet was really sweet. I know I didn't get the percent attenuation I'm supposed to get with the yeast, but I wouldn't think that that would be the problem. It had a wonderful creamy head.

I've heard many times that IPAs are best when you let them age, but I had no idea it would taste like that when it was green. Wowzer! It tasted like I had just bitten into a Tylenol! Can I expect this to mellow?
__________________
1º #1: RIS
1º #2: -
2º #1: Flanders Red (2009)
2º #2: Lambic (2009)
2º #3: Flanders Red (2010)
2º #4: Lambic (2010)
2º #5: Old Ale

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2007, 03:37 AM   #2
Orfy
For the love of beer!
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
Orfy's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Sep 2005
Cheshire, England
Posts: 11,732
Liked 94 Times on 62 Posts


Yes it will mellow.

Try one every 2 weeks. You may need to leave it 3 months+
__________________
GET THE GOBLIN
Have a beer on me.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2007, 03:38 AM   #3
MikeFlynn74
 
MikeFlynn74's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Nov 2007
ANCHORAGE!!
Posts: 3,876
Liked 19 Times on 17 Posts


def mellow over time-

Dont worry! But Id use a diff yeast next time. Not real pleased with the 1084
__________________
Quote:
If you find yourself going through hell, keep going- Winston Churchill
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenchiro View Post
The successful have nobody to blame but themselves, I really wish they would take some responsibility for their own actions...

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2007, 03:38 AM   #4
mrk305
Beer Dude in the Sunset
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
mrk305's Avatar
Recipes 
 
May 2007
Georgia
Posts: 1,710
Liked 12 Times on 12 Posts


It will mellow. Wait a couple weeks. Four oz. of Centenial is a lot of hops. Looks like a good IPA to me!

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2007, 03:57 PM   #5
chase
 
chase's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Aug 2007
Urbana, IL
Posts: 370
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts


Great!

I've been having trouble with every batch. Off flavors, low attenuation, etc. This was the first batch that I thought I had done everything right.

I pre-boiled my top-off water, I sanitized really well, I fermented at the right temp, I check all the gravity readings.

There was also this very slight off flavor on the first couple drinks, that I've had in every other beer, but it went away. I still haven't figured out what that is. Other people say they don't notice it, but I do. Maybe it's just in my head. I want to say that it is solventy, but part of me says that isn't it.

I've heard that solventy tastes come from stressed yeast, at too high a temperature. Could that flavor also come from low oxygenation to begin with? If so, that would agree with my low attenuation.

Now I just need something to drink in the mean time...
__________________
1º #1: RIS
1º #2: -
2º #1: Flanders Red (2009)
2º #2: Lambic (2009)
2º #3: Flanders Red (2010)
2º #4: Lambic (2010)
2º #5: Old Ale

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2007, 04:22 PM   #6
ohiobrewtus
 
ohiobrewtus's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Nov 2006
Ohio
Posts: 7,785
Liked 62 Times on 54 Posts


In general, most beers will taste better if you let them age for a couple of months - IPA's included. The bitterness will mellow over time, but don't let it age too long or it will almost disappear altogether.

I'm a major hophead so I like to drink my APA/IPA/IIPA's while they're still a little green and the majority of the bitterness is still there to kick me in the arse.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_bird
Well, if you *love* it.... again, note that my A.S.S. has five pounds.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2007, 04:31 PM   #7
9/9
Collembola!
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
9/9's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Dec 2007
Durham, NC
Posts: 417
Liked 8 Times on 8 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by ohiobrewtus
In general, most beers will taste better if you let them age for a couple of months - IPA's included. The bitterness will mellow over time, but don't let it age too long or it will almost disappear altogether.

I'm a major hophead so I like to drink my APA/IPA/IIPA's while they're still a little green and the majority of the bitterness is still there to kick me in the arse.
So, what exactly causes this? I know that the activity of the yeast causes the carbing, but why does the hop flavor change over time? Is it due to the yeast activity, or is there other chemical reactions occurring in the bottle as well?

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2007, 04:39 PM   #8
ohiobrewtus
 
ohiobrewtus's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Nov 2006
Ohio
Posts: 7,785
Liked 62 Times on 54 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by 9/9
So, what exactly causes this? I know that the activity of the yeast causes the carbing, but why does the hop flavor change over time? Is it due to the yeast activity, or is there other chemical reactions occurring in the bottle as well?
It is my undertanding that the iso-alpha acids simply break down over time.

I had one of my APA's (65 IBU) a couple of days ago that was bottled 4 months ago and compared it to the same recipe from bottles that were only about 6 weeks old and there was a noticable difference in bitterness, flavor and aroma.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_bird
Well, if you *love* it.... again, note that my A.S.S. has five pounds.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2007, 04:46 PM   #9
9/9
Collembola!
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
9/9's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Dec 2007
Durham, NC
Posts: 417
Liked 8 Times on 8 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by ohiobrewtus
It is my undertanding that the iso-alpha acids simply break down over time.

I had one of my APA's (65 IBU) a couple of days ago that was bottled 4 months ago and compared it to the same recipe from bottles that were only about 6 weeks old and there was a noticable difference in bitterness, flavor and aroma.
Interesting, thanks (I am a science geek as well as a beer snob). I have my first brew, an IPA in the fermenter now. I hope that it will be drinkable by the superbowl, but I guess I will just have to see.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2007, 05:24 PM   #10
BierMuncher
...My Junk is Ugly...
HBT_MODERATOR.png
 
BierMuncher's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Jan 2007
St. Louis, MO
Posts: 12,402
Liked 789 Times on 435 Posts


Two things strike me in what you said:

1) Bottled on the 19th and by the 30th, bottles are carb'd.
2) OG was 1.064, FG was 1.020

For a beer to only attenuate 68% before bottling and then be carb'd in less than two weeks, my fear is that you might have bottled with some residual sugars in the wort.

You're liable to have some gushers on your hand. What temp are you conditioning those bottles?

As far as the hops bite...time my friend...time.

That beer will be very good in about 7-10 weeks.

 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Harsh!!! stokems Sampling and Critiquing and Beer Swapping 5 05-23-2009 11:01 AM
Harsh aftertaste? minime Extract Brewing 11 10-17-2007 03:48 PM
Harsh carbonation abs2003 Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 4 09-19-2006 06:54 PM
Very Harsh Taste??? big-o-2 Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 5 11-30-2005 06:12 PM


Forum Jump