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Old 01-18-2008, 02:27 AM   #11
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Hey Big ED
I just rant he numbers on this and I get an OG of 1.061 and 90 IBU's. That seems high to me. I'll admit it has been years since I had a BA but that just doesn't jive with my memory. Any thoughts? Also, do youhave any thoughts on substitutes for the Brewers Gold?

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Old 01-18-2008, 03:14 AM   #12
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Hey Big ED
I just rant he numbers on this and I get an OG of 1.061 and 90 IBU's. That seems high to me. I'll admit it has been years since I had a BA but that just doesn't jive with my memory. Any thoughts? Also, do youhave any thoughts on substitutes for the Brewers Gold?

Thanks, Paul
That's a recipe written for my brewery so you may want to adjust it to meet individual needs. At the default efficiency of most brewing programs an OG in the low 60s sounds about right. I would just add a bit more to the grist bill to get the OG up. As I said in the original posting this is not a clone recipe, per se. The old Bally IPA had IBUs in the mid 60s but depending on the method used this one is going to come out anywhere from 85 to 115.

The best substitute for Brewers Gold is probably Bullion. Both are older types of hops and often not easy to find nowadays. The current hop crisis doesn't help either. The old Brit bittering hop characteristics of dark fruit/berry are what you want. Of the newer varieties Pacific Gem or Challenger might be worth a try. Barring that you could fall back on one of the newer high alpha Brits like Target or Phoenix but they are more neutral in flavor.

 
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Old 01-18-2008, 08:04 AM   #13
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Sounds good. I'm definately gonna make some of this.

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Old 04-20-2010, 06:55 PM   #14

Bringing this back from the dead only b/c BYO has an article with a couple of clone recipes in the new (May/June 2010) issue and I have some Bullion hops on hand and would like to give the IPA a try. BYO is calling for 6-row. I might use one of the varieties of 2-row I have on hand instead of having to buy 6-row.

 
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Old 04-21-2010, 01:01 AM   #15
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Just read the BYO article and it certainly got my curiousity going...

For starters, I'm not familiar with Brewers Gold. You guys like that hop?

 
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Old 04-21-2010, 09:41 AM   #16
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I've an analysis of Ballantine IPA from 1939 and that gives the OG as 1075.2 and the FG 1018.6. While XXX had an OG of 1056 and an FG of 1014.5.

 
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Old 04-21-2010, 01:16 PM   #17
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Just read the BYO article and it certainly got my curiousity going...

For starters, I'm not familiar with Brewers Gold. You guys like that hop?
I do, though it's different, usually used for bittering. Bullion is interchangable.

 
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Old 04-21-2010, 03:50 PM   #18

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I've an analysis of Ballantine IPA from 1939 and that gives the OG as 1075.2 and the FG 1018.6. While XXX had an OG of 1056 and an FG of 1014.5.
Wow, that's cool! Thanks. If I had a Doc Brown DeLorean Time Machine, I'd travel back just to try beers from different eras to see how they really tasted back then. This is one I'd seek out. Looking to brew this mid-summer.

 
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Old 04-23-2010, 08:17 PM   #19
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Check out the latest edition of BYO for a good story on Ballantines + a recipe.

 
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Old 10-09-2010, 03:21 PM   #20
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Beer scene magazine is going to have an article on THE original Ballantine strain this month. A gentlemen named Al Buck of East Coast Yeast has revived the Ballantine Ale and Lager Strains from streaks from the original yeast banked cultured from the Newark NJ brewery. He is calling it "Old Newark Ale".

It is offered through Princeton Homebrew in 125ml pitchable nalgene bottles.

Joe at Princeton Homebrews has it for sale
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2868 . He can ship.
East coast yeast is also offering a saison blend and bug farm lambic mix. Deff. some interesting yeast happenings on the east coast.

 
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