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Old 07-08-2014, 10:41 PM   #1
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After hearing the Brew Strong interview with Ken Anthony of Device Brewing I no longer have any interest in something so involved as starting a nanobrewery, yet I and my homebrew club members are interested in selling our brew in some fashion.
Is it possible to get some kind of license to sell strictly at events or do we have to have a full commercial brewers license no matter what?
I was thinking of a kind of "beer catering" business where we would tend bar at weddings and other events and feature our beer. I don't mind not making any money, it would just be nice to break even so we can drink for free
Is it legal to host a party and charge a cover charge for the party, then give the beer away for free.
Ultimately I'd be happy being nothing more than a weekend warrior making cash on the side while still getting to brew with my buddies on a large homebrew scale. If selling homebrew in any fashion requires a lease space with certain specs etc it's probably something we'd never get into, but I was hoping there were some folks out there who have heard of some innovative ways of selling homebrew as a side project instead of trying to make it a full time career. Thanks for any input.


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Old 07-08-2014, 10:51 PM   #2
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No. Not in any shape or form can you manufacture and sell beer without all requisite local, county, state and federal permits and licenses as a brewery. Period.


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No. Not in any shape or form can you manufacture and sell beer without all requisite local, county, state and federal permits and licenses as a brewery. Period.
This.

While the laws regarding the manufacture and sale of alcohol vary by state and municipality, the one thing they all have in common is that selling alcohol without a license is a big no-no.
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Old 07-09-2014, 12:17 AM   #4
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You could become a lobbyist and change things for homebrewers. It has worked in the past.
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Old 07-09-2014, 12:40 AM   #5
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I know I can't sell without a license, I guess I forgot to mention that we are willing to get a licence of some type, but what licenses are available. The only one I know of requires you to have a leased space which must be inspected and have floor drains, sinks, etc. I'm asking if there are any other limited use licenses available that would allow us to sell in a very limited capacity. I doubt it but I just want to know for sure. thanks.
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Sell someone a beer and they get in a wreck on the way home and kill somebody, you better have a good lawyer on retainer. Liability insurance will probably be expensive.
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You need a federal Brewer's Notice from the TTB division of the ATF. Plus whatever state/local licenses those jurisdictions require.

Laws make no distraction between nanobreweries and macrobreweries, besides the number of daily/weekly/quarterly reports and excise tax per barrel.

You can not produce beer for any profit including "giving" it away at a party with a "cover" charge.

In some states you can't even remove it from your home.
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It is called home brew for a reason. It is meant to be consumed at home.

There is no way to sell it without becoming a liscensed brewery. any efforts to get around it by doing things like selling cups and giving the beer for free will not work.

Just enjoy the hobby and let the pros do what they do.
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After hearing the Brew Strong interview with Ken Anthony of Device Brewing I no longer have any interest in something so involved as starting a nanobrewery, yet I and my homebrew club members are interested in selling our brew in some fashion.

Is it possible to get some kind of license to sell strictly at events or do we have to have a full commercial brewers license no matter what?

I was thinking of a kind of "beer catering" business where we would tend bar at weddings and other events and feature our beer. I don't mind not making any money, it would just be nice to break even so we can drink for free

Is it legal to host a party and charge a cover charge for the party, then give the beer away for free.

Ultimately I'd be happy being nothing more than a weekend warrior making cash on the side while still getting to brew with my buddies on a large homebrew scale. If selling homebrew in any fashion requires a lease space with certain specs etc it's probably something we'd never get into, but I was hoping there were some folks out there who have heard of some innovative ways of selling homebrew as a side project instead of trying to make it a full time career. Thanks for any input.

Bottom line NO!
Unless you go through all the licensing steps required of even a nanobrewery and then there are probably local zoning issues, etc.


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When did this site become the defacto site for homebrewers to ask other homebrewers how to get around licensing laws.

Let me google that for you:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=indiana+brewer+license


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