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Old 12-10-2007, 05:04 PM   #41
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and I personally doubt the ramifications of rinsing it. I dont think that tap water is so full of bugs that rinsing off the foam would be counterproductive. I bet it would still be sanitary. What do I know though?
Potable drinking water is not, in general, sanitary so rinsing would leave the item unsanitary. But, would leave any/enough bugs to hurt your beer? Don't know....don't want to know.

 
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Old 12-10-2007, 05:34 PM   #42
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Potable drinking water is not, in general, sanitary so rinsing would leave the item unsanitary. But, would leave any/enough bugs to hurt your beer? Don't know....don't want to know.
Before I learned to Love the Foam I routinely rinsed it out with tap water. No infections resulted.

 
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Old 12-10-2007, 05:59 PM   #43
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IMO, anything you do to the vessel post Starsan adds risk of contamination.
The risk could be minor but in the worst-case scenario, the outcome is a failed batch. Therefore; anything extracurricular better be important in the brewing process.

Rinsing, again IMO, does not add to the brewing process.
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:28 PM   #44
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Which is why I always dilute my drinking water.
With beer?
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Old 12-10-2007, 06:29 PM   #45
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I wouldn't bet my own beer on it, but to each his own.
Dont get me wrong, I wouldnt, nor do I, risk my beer on it. I am just saying that I doubt it would be a problem if it did happen. I am sure there are many a brewer who rinse 'no-rinse' sanitizer and are not getting infections.

 
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:28 PM   #46
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There are thousands of people out there who have done partial boils and use regular old tap water to top off the fermenter with, without boiling or otherwise sanitizing it first, and I'm sure that the vast majority of them have successfully brewed beer that way without infection.
The risk of adding several gallons of tap water to your fermenter has got to be a lot more significant than giving your equipment a quick rinse with tap water after sanitizing, and yet people seem to freak out a lot more about the latter. (Not trying to say either is a good idea)

But what's the excuse for using tap as top-off water? More often than not, I think it's that pre-boiling and cooling your tap water is a hassle, and buying bottled water costs money. It's not a GOOD excuse, but it's a common one. Experienced brewers warn against it, but people still skip it.

But rinsing after sanitizing with starsan is practically the opposite. It requires more effort, there is no benefit, and if anything it increases risk of infection (even if it is by some probably negligible amount). Experienced brewers warn against it, but people keep doing it.

I think the moral of the story is that sometimes people just don't want to listen to advice
Personally, I'm one of those who runs around with a spray bottle full of starsan and uses it on everything, and never rinses after sanitizing - I can't understand why anyone would expend MORE effort to be LESS sanitary - to each his own. But I also acknowledge that rinsing is not very likely to cause problems - again, to each his own.


 
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To me, it's not the water, it's the (IMO) unecessary step that may lead to an (albeit 1 in 1000) error.
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Old 12-10-2007, 11:35 PM   #48
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You can DRINK star-san. at worst, it tastes funny and will give you mud butt.

DO NOT FEAR THE FOAM. the foam sanitizes too.
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:11 AM   #49
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I don't worry too much about the foam. If you're careful with how you pour your water out, though, and keep the flow out of the fermenter more or less laminar, you don't end up with too much foam. Same thing works when you're sanitizing your bottles, incidentally.
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:52 AM   #50
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How about bottling?

Is it ok to have some foam left on the bottles before you pour the final product into them to bottle condition?

 
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