can you describe your set up and proccess? i'm curious. i've been doing a mini mash with about half the grain you'd normally use for a five gallon batch and dme to get the rest of the fermentables.
the pale ale i bottled last week tasted pretty good before i put it in the bottles.
i'm still on the transitional bubble, the malt extract is killing me, killing me in the price dept.... i spend as much on extract as i do grain, yeast and hops... sooooo it won't be long before i go all grain... i'll have to move the operation outdoors though, as the kitchen stove i don't think can handle the increased volume of liquid on the burner...
A barrel of malt, a bushel of hops, you stir it around with a stick
The kind of lubrication to make your engine tick
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