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Old 03-04-2014, 10:16 AM   #1
Dec 2013
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hey gang.

pretty new to the forum and also pretty new to brewing.

my method is 3 gallon biab and i'd like to do a cascadian dark ale. i'm loosely following the recipe from brewing tv episode 54, seen here:

however, i don't have the exact ingredients and wanted to get some feedback about my plan.

5.25 lbs American 2-Row - sub Maris Otter
0.5 lb Carafa III - sub Black Malt
1.25 lbs Medium Crystal - sub CaraMunich 2

the hops call for a blend of mt. rainier, palisade and centennial. however, i'd like to use what i have in stock, which is:


does anyone have any feedback/ideas about this? i'd appreciate it.


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Old 03-04-2014, 10:21 AM   #2
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I'd do about the same for malt subs. For hops check out this handy chart. Complete with flavour descriptions and supposedly reasonable substitutions. Might take a try or two from the drop down menu to find the original hop you're after, but well worth it.

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Old 03-04-2014, 10:32 AM   #3
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thanks! i'll check it out.

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Old 03-06-2014, 08:27 PM   #4
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anyone else have thoughts on this?


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Old 03-07-2014, 12:52 AM   #5
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What are the total amounts for all your hops?

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Old 03-07-2014, 03:06 AM   #6
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I would use Centennial or Chinook for bittering and a couple late additions of Cent. & Cascade. I'd also dryhop with that same combo. Try to keep IBU's around 56 or so. Should be quite tasty! I make a similar black ale with Columbus & Cascade. It's awesome imo. What yeast are you using? WLP001 or WY1056 would both work great. Good luck!

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Old 03-07-2014, 03:40 AM   #7
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the carafa is better for a black ale than the black malt. obviously both work but the carafa is better.

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Old 03-07-2014, 04:23 AM   #8
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I brewed this awhile back, 3 gal went fast.
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Old 03-07-2014, 04:30 AM   #9
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I wonder if that is regular or special (dehusked) carafa in the original. I'm also in the camp that would use something dehusked or debittered in a cascadian dark - carafa specials, midnight wheat, blackprinz, etc.

Edit: looks like Jake's is regular carafa

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Old 03-07-2014, 04:40 AM   #10
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Here is one of mine, has been a hit with everyone I know that has tried it.

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