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Old 02-06-2014, 03:25 AM   #1
Mar 2011
Reidsville, NC
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I've been brewing for more than a decade and a half and I feel like I still learn from every batch. I recently got a buddy into the hobby and his third batch is in primary now. He sends me a message yesterday saying that his beer is better than mine and was quite cocky about it. I'm all about helping folks get into the hobby and doing all I can to help them learn. Needless to say I'm a tad miffed at his hubris and don't know how to handle it. I'm not the end all know all of brewing and never claim to be but I have won a few competitions with the first win in 1999. How should I deal with this without ruining a friendship? I'm judging a competition next month that he wants to enter and I'm tempted to tell him to set his bottles in the sun for three days before he submits the entries.

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Old 02-06-2014, 03:36 AM   #2
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Old 02-06-2014, 03:40 AM   #3
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West Des Moines, Iowa
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He'll call you panicked within the month and tell you he did "x" and is certain his beer is ruined or will interpret normal fermentation as an infection. Pride goeth before a fall.

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Old 02-06-2014, 03:41 AM   #4
Jan 2014
Joliet, Illinois
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A little Brett or lacto? Just kidding. He's enthusiastic about the craft, which is great. Sometimes you just swallow your pride and say that his brew result is good too. Know that "good" and "better than" are subjective, and let him enter the competition.

I'm no pro, nor will I claim perfection in my ales/lagers, but feedback from friends on my all grain ipa and Oktoberfest were better than commercial brews. Sometimes a new brewer needs that kind of feedback to build confidence. However, appropriate feedback also helps. I'd much rather hear legit feedback and criticism than ego stroking. Honesty is the best policy.

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Old 02-06-2014, 03:41 AM   #5
Aug 2011
Philadelphia, PA
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Relax? If he does well in the comp wish him well, if not, maybe make a helpful suggestion on what to improve based upon the other judges notes? In either case RDWHAHB

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Old 02-06-2014, 03:46 AM   #6
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Your friend is an overcompensated insecure arse. Find a new friend. Or you could tell him to take a hike. Pretty sure his insecurity would come asking you for help.

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Old 02-06-2014, 03:50 AM   #7
Feb 2014
South Bend, Indiana
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Just say "that's not what your wife said last night " lol that was a friend of mines go to punch line for EVERYTHING. Really though, I'd have throw a funny spin on it for friendly banter like "wrong you are young padawan" in Yoda's voice

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Old 02-06-2014, 03:54 AM   #8
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Mobile, AL
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With friends like that...

That is pretty impressive that his product's quality went zooming past yours after only two finished batches. You must be one hella teacher.
In keezer: 1. Double IPA 2. Oatmeal stout lager (S-189) 3. Blackened Voodoo (Schwarzbier) clone
4. empty

In process: Blue Moon clone in primary
In future: spiced holiday ale
all grain brewing since 1991: I love to C6H12O6 → 2 C2H5OH + 2 CO2

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Old 02-06-2014, 04:32 AM   #9
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Denver, CO
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You sure he wasn't joking?

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Old 02-06-2014, 04:45 AM   #10
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Out of My Mind, CA
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Sounds like he's just trying to have a good time. Maybe grab a beer and play along ;-)
Primary: Hophead Summer Ale, Watermelon Wheat
Secondary: Empty
In the Keg: Red IPA, Centennial Blonde, Hophead Summer Ale, Pliny Clone
Bottle: Apfelwein, Cranegranate Apfelwein
On Deck: Sweet Stout

Let me bring you up to speed, we know nothing... You are now up to speed.

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