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Old 11-21-2007, 12:02 AM   #1
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I used Irish Moss chilled my wort down in about 20 minutes and still have cloudy beer. Could it be from dry hopping? Actually it's cloudy even when it's warm so it isn't even chill haze.

 
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:05 AM   #2
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Is it bottled or still in the carboy? How long?

 
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:33 AM   #3
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Sorry....it's been bottled for 5 weeks this wed.

1 week primary....2 in secondary and 3 in bottles (now 5).

 
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:35 AM   #4
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Interesting. Did you use a secondary? Was the beer clear when you were putting it into the bottles or has it been cloudy from the start?

 
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:10 AM   #5
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It appeared cloudy in secondary. I had 1oz of hops pellets in a muslin bag in there for 7 days. I was pretty good racking both into secondary and bottling bucket and didn't have much sediment in secondary. There isn't much yeast at all on the bottom of my bottles. It was an English IPA and it fermented at 68-72 degrees. Same for secondary and same for bottles. Right now it is sitting at about 70-73 degrees F.
You can see the cloudiness just by looking at the bottles. At 45 minutes into the boil I added 1/2-3/4 tsp Irish Moss to my wort (2.5 gals). Actually I did a late addition and added my second half of extract also. (3.3 lbs LME).

 
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:39 PM   #6
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If it tastes good swill it down. If it really bothers you put it in a dark glass or just drink it right out of the bottle. I occasionally have this happen and I don't know the cause.

 
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:30 PM   #7
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If it tastes good swill it down. If it really bothers you put it in a dark glass or just drink it right out of the bottle. I occasionally have this happen and I don't know the cause.
The cloudiness doesn't bother me but it is puzzling since I used Irish moss. I thought that was to prevent this!
There is a weird taste and aftertaste to this brew that I had on my first batch also. Others that have tasted it have not noticed it and most like the beer. Compared to my middle two batches I can't stand it.... just like my first batch. One or two have tasted the same odd taste I have but most don't. My LHBS tasted the off taste but kept tasting because he wasn't really sure if he did or not. It's hard to pin down....kind of a cross between tinny, and bitter or a faint soapiness? The taste is nothing that fits the usual off taste descriptions ( I checked Palmer's also). Definitely drinkable (and after two you don't taste it!) but just not to my liking....something isn't right. Could that be "yeasty?" I'm not sure what that would taste like but come to think of it the back taste and after taste might be that of "trub."

So while cloudiness doesn't bother me, I have to wonder if there is a connection and especially since I added Irish moss which I thought would kill any cloudiness concerns.

 
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:36 PM   #8
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Irish moss only removes proteins, not something like a starch haze. What were your specialty grains (if any) and how much iron is in your water?
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:43 PM   #9
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What were your specialty grains (if any)?
6.6 lb. Munton's Light Malt Extract
lb. Munton & Fison Crystal Malt 60 L
lb. Munton & Fison Carapils Malt 20 L
1 oz. Kent Goldings U.K. Hops (Bittering)
1 oz. Kent Goldings U.K. Hops (Flavoring)
1 oz. Fuggles Hops (Finishing)
Wyeast # 1028XL London Ale

My son just tasted it and didn't think it was bad other than it was a little "light" in flavor. There is a definite bite to it that tastes like trub to me if I had to describe it as anything. I racked to secondary after my Hydrometer reading fell to 1.011 or 12 from OG of 1.050. Airlock activity was one bubble every 40-60 secs.

 
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:02 PM   #10
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I would brew the same batch again and see if the unusual taste remains. If so, i would try bottled water for a batch and see if that changes the taste.
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