Does a boil have to be 60 minutes long? - Home Brew Forums

Register Now!
Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Beginners Beer Brewing Forum > Does a boil have to be 60 minutes long?

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-06-2014, 02:34 PM   #1
Knutz38
Recipes 
 
Dec 2013
Posts: 11
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts



I'm new to this so bear with me.
I've gotten 2 kits, each from a different retailer - Midwest and More Beer. Both call for 60 min boils, but here's the thing. The Hop additions on both these kits are very late in the boil - in the last 15, 10 and 5 minutes.
This being the case, does the boil have to be so long, unless the extract takes that long to "break" or be conditioned.

Thanks for replies

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 02:38 PM   #2
Quaker
Beer Missionary
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
 
Quaker's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Sep 2011
Burlington, WI
Posts: 974
Liked 103 Times on 78 Posts


No need for more than 15 minutes with extract.
__________________
My father says, "hobbies are supposed to cost money".

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 02:39 PM   #3
unionrdr
Heavyweight homebrewing author
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
unionrdr's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2011
Sheffield, Ohio
Posts: 38,910
Liked 3671 Times on 3155 Posts


If the kit recipe has a bittering addition,then yes,you need to do the whole 60 minute boil. If it's using pre-hopped extract,usually bittering,then you can do a shorter boil for the flavor & aroma additions. But never boil pre-hopped extract for any length of time,as it changes the hop profiles designed into it.
__________________
NEW books on amazon/Kindle! Check it out now...
Home Brewing- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PBAP6JO
Distopian Sci-Fi- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NTA0L6G
New! John Henry- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GBV3UXU

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 04:32 PM   #4
Bobby_M
Vendor and Brewer
HBT_SPONSOR.png
 
Bobby_M's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Aug 2006
Whitehouse Station, NJ
Posts: 23,201
Liked 1658 Times on 1071 Posts


Not to be a smart ass but are you sure you are not confusing the instructions? I'm aware that "all late" hopping is becoming more common, but the norm is a 60 minutes addition for bittering. I'm just wondering if you're seeing a 60 minute addition as being AFTER 60 minutes of boiling. Hopping schedules are backwards from intuitive.. a 5 minute addition is Tminus 5, not 5 minutes into the boil. If you're well aware of this, carry on.
__________________
Welcome to BrewHardware.com. I love you.
BIAB Large Mesh False Bottoms and SS HERMS COILS are IN!!
Chugger Pumps, Pump Kits, Camlocks, Sightglasses, Clear USA made Silicone Tubing, RIMS, Electric Install Parts, etc.

unionrdr Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 04:49 PM   #5
petrolSpice
Recipes 
 
Dec 2013
Posts: 563
Liked 38 Times on 36 Posts


What happens when hops are boiled for more than 60 minutes? 120 minute IPA comes to mind here. Why boil for 2 hours?!

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 05:10 PM   #6
Homercidal
Licensed Sensual Massage Therapist.
HBT_MODERATOR.png
 
Homercidal's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2008
Reed City, MI
Posts: 30,652
Liked 4765 Times on 3217 Posts


Boiling drives off SMS, which are DMS precursors. Some malts require a longer vigorous boil to make sure all of the unwanteds are gone. Plus, boiling can cause some amount of caramelizing, so that might be desirous.

Then you have the hops to think about. Almost all beers have a 60 minute bittering addition. 60 minutes is the defacto standard for adding bitterness without flavor and aroma. It's possible to add enough bitterness with the late hops additions, like at 20 or 30 minutes, but this is relatively new, and mostly for American Ales like Pale Ale or IPA which are very hop forward.

Some of the popular homebrewers, like some that are found on The Brewing Network podcasts (Like Jamil, Palmer, etc.) tend to boil for 90 minutes, as they think it gives a better beer in the end.

You can do what you want, and there are no hard and fast rules regarding this, but whatever you do you have to live with the consequences for the full 5 gallons. I'd be leery about boiling for less than 60 minutes. That's a lot of beer to drink if it ends up with off flavors or underbittered.
__________________
Day after day, it reappears. Night after night my heartbeat shows the fear. Ghosts appear and fade away. Come back another day.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 05:17 PM   #7
rodwha
Recipes 
 
Sep 2011
Lakeway, Texas
Posts: 4,474
Liked 179 Times on 168 Posts


I've done 45 min boils with lighter styled beers where using 1 oz of hops in the whole thing was still a bit much so I reduced the boil to lower the IBU's. It was OK.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Revvy View Post
...tasting a beer at 1 week, and again at 2....that to me just means there 2 less beers that are actually tasting good and are ready at the end.
"Anyway on the wall was this sign. People who drink light beer don't really like beer. They just like to piss a lot."

"Were I to leave where else would I go? Your words of life and of truth You hold." - Third Day

 
Reply With Quote


Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
60 minute boil vs 90 minutes boil ghosthef General Beer Discussion 16 06-23-2013 08:13 AM
How long is 15 minutes? Towers General Chit Chat 4 01-02-2012 11:47 PM
boil 45 minutes? lkondolian Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 1 01-18-2009 03:10 AM
Did I boil too long? 80 minutes 2323 All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 12 06-26-2008 11:48 PM
LME Last 10 minutes of boil??? beerdad Extract Brewing 9 10-02-2007 05:21 PM


Forum Jump