Coldbreak Brewing HERMS Giveaway!

HomeBrewSupply AMCYL Brew Kettle Giveaway!


Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Beginners Beer Brewing Forum > Is boiling the caps a bad idea?
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-24-2013, 02:14 PM   #1
Elysium
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Madrid, Spain
Posts: 1,166
Liked 21 Times on 21 Posts
Likes Given: 167

Default Is boiling the caps a bad idea?

I have been boiling the caps in a few cups of water just to keep them sanitized. Problem: Palmer's book says it is a bad idea because the heat destroys the oxygen seal in them. Well, what will be the telltale signs of this happening? Beer gets oxidized after a few weeks?
Has this caused any problems to anyone yet?

Merry Xmas folks.


Elysium is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2013, 02:15 PM   #2
Newsman
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 4 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Cohutta, GA
Posts: 1,644
Liked 272 Times on 213 Posts
Likes Given: 8568

Default

why bother boiling? Just dump what you need in a little bit of StarSan.


Newsman is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2013, 02:17 PM   #3
unionrdr
struggling author
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
unionrdr's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Sheffield, Ohio
Posts: 34,865
Liked 2967 Times on 2561 Posts
Likes Given: 2092

Default

Wetting o2 barrier caps at all activates the o2 absorbant layer under the plastic seal. Not to mention,weakening the glue that holds it all together.
I just dunk them into some Starsan right before placing on the bottles. After I go to crimp the caps in place,I turn the bottle upside down once to make sure the o2 absorbant layer is activated. Not to mention that pasteurization happens between 142-160F,not boiling temp.
__________________
My sci-fi & home brewing books on amazon-kindle now! New additions coming!
NEW, REVISED EDITION of book one of Time Lords 2034 series now on Amazon Kindle! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NTA0L6G
My homebrewing book "Tippy Tippy Tappy" on Kindle! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PBAP6JO
unionrdr is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2013, 02:27 PM   #4
passedpawn
Waste Allocation Load Lifter - Earth Class
HBT_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
passedpawn's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: ☼ Clearwater, FL ☼
Posts: 22,057
Liked 4841 Times on 2893 Posts
Likes Given: 4052

Default

I used to boil. Sometimes the plastic seal inside them would shrivel, which I thought was not good.

I switched to just putting all my caps in the Vinator sanitizer reservoir at the beginning of bottling. Perfect.

If you are not using a vinator and a bottling tree, you should. It's a great investment and you'll wonder why you messed with anything else.
__________________
- Andrew
passedpawn is offline
2
People Like This 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2013, 02:49 PM   #5
unionrdr
struggling author
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
unionrdr's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Sheffield, Ohio
Posts: 34,865
Liked 2967 Times on 2561 Posts
Likes Given: 2092

Default

Gotta agree with that! My bottle tree,vinator & super agata bench capper make bottling day easier & faster. I have saved those plastic containers from the upscale luncheon meats to put starsan in for dunking my o2 barrier caps in before placing them on the bottles.
__________________
My sci-fi & home brewing books on amazon-kindle now! New additions coming!
NEW, REVISED EDITION of book one of Time Lords 2034 series now on Amazon Kindle! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NTA0L6G
My homebrewing book "Tippy Tippy Tappy" on Kindle! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PBAP6JO
unionrdr is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2013, 02:53 PM   #6
glenn514
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
glenn514's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Marengo, Illinois
Posts: 1,220
Liked 166 Times on 120 Posts
Likes Given: 46

Default

Boiling the caps is a waste of time...and often destroys the plastic seal. Better, as has been mentioned, is simply to throw them into a container with StarSan and let them soak a minute of two. Very easy...and the plastic seal retains its shape and integrity.

glenn514
__________________
Don't sweat the minutiae!
glenn514 is offline
unionrdr Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2013, 03:29 PM   #7
dk21
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Lewisburg, PA
Posts: 213
Liked 15 Times on 13 Posts

Default

I also simply drop mine in Star San, however, most breweries and a lot of homebrewers don't sanitize caps at all, so I wouldn't worry a whole lot.
dk21 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2013, 03:32 PM   #8
rawlus
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: milford, ma
Posts: 437
Liked 24 Times on 22 Posts
Likes Given: 13

Default

When I use caps, which is not often, I don't sanitize them... The pros don't either. As long as your keeping you supply of caps protected in the first place (not strewn across the bottom of a dirty tote or something) y should have no issues.

If you are using the o2 type caps - the you don't want to wet them with anything except the beer in the bottle after it's been capped. That's the whole purpose of the o2 caps. If you dunk them in starsan first, then you just paid more for regular caps.
rawlus is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2013, 04:01 PM   #9
IL1kebeer
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Inland Empire, CA
Posts: 723
Liked 89 Times on 77 Posts
Likes Given: 7

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rawlus
When I use caps, which is not often, I don't sanitize them... The pros don't either. As long as your keeping you supply of caps protected in the first place (not strewn across the bottom of a dirty tote or something) y should have no issues.
Bad advice. Caps have all sorts of crap over them. How do you think they get into the bag? They sure as heck aren't kept in a sterile lab with a sterile robot dumping them in. This was even mentioned on a Brewing Network podcast and one of the guys from Morebeer admitted that caps aren't free of contaminants.
IL1kebeer is offline
unionrdr Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2013, 04:04 PM   #10
unionrdr
struggling author
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
unionrdr's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Sheffield, Ohio
Posts: 34,865
Liked 2967 Times on 2561 Posts
Likes Given: 2092

Default

We were discussing this in a thread once,& it seems to me revvy mention getting 1 or 2 out of three caps causing infections in some bottles. I don't soak the o2 barrier caps in Starsan,just give'em a quick dunk & onto the bottles.


__________________
My sci-fi & home brewing books on amazon-kindle now! New additions coming!
NEW, REVISED EDITION of book one of Time Lords 2034 series now on Amazon Kindle! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NTA0L6G
My homebrewing book "Tippy Tippy Tappy" on Kindle! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PBAP6JO
unionrdr is offline
IL1kebeer Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Boiling Carboy Caps? Hex Equipment/Sanitation 2 09-08-2012 07:16 PM
Boiling oxygen caps to sanitize. AirBronto General Beer Discussion 19 02-15-2010 08:26 PM
Boiling Bottle Caps? woollybugger2 Bottling/Kegging 10 02-26-2009 03:05 PM
boiling caps HOOTER Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 6 03-10-2008 03:53 PM
O2 Absorbing Caps & Boiling / Sanatizing? natnov Bottling/Kegging 2 02-05-2008 04:38 AM


Forum Jump

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS