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Old 12-18-2013, 03:22 PM   #31
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Have you tried Wyeast 2112? It's the "steam beer" yeast, a lager that ferments at ale temps. Ferment at room temperature, you will get very fruity results.
I have been working with an old West Coast lager strain that I dug out of a research-oriented culture collection. I have it fermenting at 15C/59F with zero sulfur production. Most brewing strains are polyploids that grow robustly on solid media. This strain is a confirmed diploid that is a pain in the backside to grow on solid media (I maintain all of my yeast stocks on solid wort).


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Old 12-18-2013, 03:52 PM   #32
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Wlp644 is supposedly a fruit bomb. Its a Brett. Read up on several threads. When used for primary ferment with no aeration it appears to generate extreme fruit aromas. It's well suited for IPA and APA apparently.

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No experience using brett, but what is the importance of no aeration?


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Old 12-18-2013, 04:23 PM   #33
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Just to add to usage of Bells yeast & culturing. They use the same yeast in almost all of their beers (they have a wild strain and one other I think). I've harvested 3 times, and used Best Brown, Amber, and 2 Hearted. I then run off a 3-4 beer sequence from that initial triple stepped starter. It drops clear during cold crash, has controllable krausen and good attenuation even in high gravity beers (I've fermented a 1.102 RIS and a 1.114 Barley wine), and has a great flavor profile. I recently tried 3 beers using S-05 which everyone seems to rave about. I thought it was good, but I'm back to Bells for my house yeast strain even though I have to step the starters.

I have never fermented in the 70's with it. Mid 70's is too high I would venture, so I would not give up on it yet. It starts well in the 62-64F range. I either let it ferment to 65 at fermentation end for a clean profile, or ramp to 68-69 for that citrus fruitiness that seems to be present in 2 Hearted Ale.
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Old 12-18-2013, 04:37 PM   #34
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I use Bells' yeast when I want that tart flavor it's known for. I pitch in the high 60s and ferment at 72-74 and it always comes out great.
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Old 12-19-2013, 02:45 AM   #35
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Have you tried Wyeast 2112? It's the "steam beer" yeast, a lager that ferments at ale temps. Ferment at room temperature, you will get very fruity results. I use this all the time in pales and IPA's with big, citrusy hops like citra, simcoe, cascacde, mosaic, etc. I love this yeast. Doesn't floc the best, but no different than US-05.
That sounds really nice!
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:52 AM   #36
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On that Wyeast 2112 cali common wouldnt anything past 68 degrees be stressing out the cells? I have always heard that stress is the worst thing for yeast? School me
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I've had good luck with 1275 thames valley. The smell of that yeast on the stir plate is fabulous. Also the Conan yeast from heady topper is susposed to throw fruity esters.

http://www.bear-flavored.com/2012/09...sts-heady.html
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:11 PM   #38
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I've never thought of American Ale II as fruity, but I normally keep it at 62-63. I'll have to bump it up sometime. It's my go-to for most things.

Ringwood added a neat bit of fruity to a porter. Smells great too.
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On that Wyeast 2112 cali common wouldnt anything past 68 degrees be stressing out the cells? I have always heard that stress is the worst thing for yeast? School me
Sorry, haven't checked in for a while. This yeast will not do anything funky even at 70F ambient temp. Having said that, I do ferment in the high sixties now that I have temp control. I think of it as US-05 with a citrus boost.
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Sorry, haven't checked in for a while. This yeast will not do anything funky even at 70F ambient temp. Having said that, I do ferment in the high sixties now that I have temp control. I think of it as US-05 with a citrus boost.
It seems like 05 has an actual taste to it when fermented at room temperature. Anything under 70 makes it so plain jane i cannot stand it. That california common sounds really tasty if it is similar to 05 but with more esters. I would just have to keep it room temperature to get that though. Not so easy in the winter in mu basement. May have to look into a bucket heater of some sort.


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