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Old 12-13-2013, 09:04 PM   #1
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I've made the "mistake" of watching Food Inc. and they talk about Cargill Corn being GMO and the negative impacts on ones health. Anyone heard of anything negative about their barleys? Is there a better alternative that you have an opinion on and why? I'm trying my best to buy/eat locally grown organics and never thought to look into what I use to make my beer.

 
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:04 PM   #2
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I've never actually seen that brand of malt anywhere.

You can often find organic base and crystal malts from Briess and Great Western, if you're looking for that.

 
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:26 PM   #3
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I've never actually seen that brand of malt anywhere.

You can often find organic base and crystal malts from Briess and Great Western, if you're looking for that.
Cargill's been around for a while, about to brew an IPA this wk-end in fact.

http://www.cargillfoods.com/na/en/pr...ers-base-malt/

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Old 12-13-2013, 10:41 PM   #4
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The supposid health "issues" of GMO crops are - in one word - a lie. GMO foods are among the most heavily foods in human history - with over 12,000 studies on safety performed to date - most by independent scientists, not the producing companies.

Of those >12K studies, only two ever claimed to find evidence of harm. The first of these was retraced ~4 years ago as it was a product of fraud (e.g. an anti-GMO lobby group made the whole thing up). The second was retracted last week as the authors didn't bother doing any statistical analysis - when done, the statistics showed that there was no harm by GMO; in fact, the female rats in the study fed GMO corn did better than the female rats given organic corn.

Ironically, the "organic" options has a long track record of serious health problems In particular, the use of organic fertilizer (compost and manure) is associated with high rates of food contamination with food-born pathogens (compared to conventional farming). Most of the cases you hear of where lettuce, spinach, tomatoes, etc are making people sick are due to so-called "organic" practices.

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Old 12-14-2013, 12:04 AM   #5
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Cargill's been around for a while, about to brew an IPA this wk-end in fact.

http://www.cargillfoods.com/na/en/pr...ers-base-malt/

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I'm aware of Cargill, I just never see them for sale around here. I didn't know if that's a regional issue or just because they don't sell in home brew scale (meaning, perhaps they don't 55 pound sacks, they sell by the truck)

 
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Old 12-14-2013, 12:58 AM   #7
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there is no approved GMO Barley AFAIK

there was another discussion about this a year or so ago - that Vinne C from Russian River chimed in on and cleared up mis-information

there is a GMO discussion in the debate forum discussing personal views of GMO crops

 
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I'm aware of Cargill, I just never see them for sale around here. I didn't know if that's a regional issue or just because they don't sell in home brew scale (meaning, perhaps they don't 55 pound sacks, they sell by the truck)
I finished the 50# sack this week-end. So yes, they do sell in 50lbs sack.On what scale, I don't know.

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I've made the "mistake" of watching Food Inc. and they talk about Cargill Corn being GMO and the negative impacts on ones health. Anyone heard of anything negative about their barleys? Is there a better alternative that you have an opinion on and why? I'm trying my best to buy/eat locally grown organics and never thought to look into what I use to make my beer.
From what I've read about malting, most (all?) barley is non-GMO. There isn't enough money in the business compared to soy, corn, etc.
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Old 12-16-2013, 04:06 PM   #10
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I believe Dingemans and Gambrinus are owned by Cargill. I may be wrong though.

 
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