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Old 11-11-2007, 04:57 AM   #1
Dec 2005
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I have been noticing lately a common undertone of what I can only describe as soapy apples. Not overt but definatley there. Melbourne has extreamly soft water which is good for lager and pilszner but I cant understand this recent change in taste. What might I be inadvertantly doing to cause this?
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:58 PM   #3
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Palmer's book has a section about common off tastes.


Soap and Green Apples are both mentioned. Check it out.

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Old 11-11-2007, 01:02 PM   #4
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and just incase you haven't seen this yet:


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Old 11-11-2007, 01:47 PM   #5
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Oh, and check this out, it might help:

I like to squeeze the nickle until the buffalo craps-mt rob

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Old 11-11-2007, 02:36 PM   #6
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Extremely soft water can make rinsing all of the soap off of equipment difficult. My water in Oregon approaches the distilled level & I had to change my cleaning methods.

But, both apple & soap can be from the yeast.
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:44 PM   #7
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Blaine - a bit of a puzzler as the apple flavour is frequently from inadequate conditioning - ie racking too soon from primary and not allowing the yeast to clean up after themselves while soapy (assuming you are rinsing or not using a detergent) can be from autolysis and leaving your beer too long on the yeast.


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