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Old 11-21-2013, 12:20 AM   #1
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Not to sound like a clichť but ďabout time to document this buildĒ. Also, I wasnít sure if this should go into DYI, eBrew or Automation so feel free to move if I guessed wrong.

For a little background, my system is a 2 tiered HERMs system with a 5 gallon electric heat exchanger. Iíve been using my old panel for about 15 years now and itís slowly changed over time but Iíd like to incorporate a few new things. I enjoy the speed and roar of propane so Iím not going all electric for now but maybe on down the road. Iíd like to keep my system running off of a 20A 120V circuit so I can go over to someone elseís place to brew. I also may end up moving not too far down the road so I donít want to do too much electrical panel stuff now.

Some goals of the new panel:
-Electric HLT and HERM (switchable) for precise control
-Alarms for gas fired tanks to warn of approaching boil/strike temp
-Ability to preheat water before I start. (donít care if it takes 4 hours)

Since I scored 5 Watlow 93 PIDs, Iím not concerned about using more than a typical system would.

Here is what the layout I chose will look like.


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I also took a stab at designing a wiring schematic but the more I look at it, I keep finding little things to tweak.

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Iím open to any suggestions or advice and will try to update as I make progress on the build. With 2 kids at home, it make take awhile to build however.


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sub'd to see how this turns out. looking at doing something similar in the near future with my system.


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Define the 5gallon heat exchanger. Is this a hex core configuration in a pot or what?
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Here is a link to the HEX build, it's in a 5 gallon sankey.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f51/sepa...-build-160669/

I started out with a RIMS setup but had a burned mash so i moved to a HLT HERM but I didn't like how I had to add cold water after I doughed in which limited recirculation. I really like this setup though.
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I've made some progress. I got the layout finalized and some of the holes cut. I even test fit some things to see how it will really look. I hope to have it painted this weekend but that may be a bit much.

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Not to sound like a clichť but ďabout time to document this buildĒ. Also, I wasnít sure if this should go into DYI, eBrew or Automation so feel free to move if I guessed wrong.

For a little background, my system is a 2 tiered HERMs system with a 5 gallon electric heat exchanger. Iíve been using my old panel for about 15 years now and itís slowly changed over time but Iíd like to incorporate a few new things. I enjoy the speed and roar of propane so Iím not going all electric for now but maybe on down the road. Iíd like to keep my system running off of a 20A 120V circuit so I can go over to someone elseís place to brew. I also may end up moving not too far down the road so I donít want to do too much electrical panel stuff now.

Some goals of the new panel:
-Electric HLT and HERM (switchable) for precise control
-Alarms for gas fired tanks to warn of approaching boil/strike temp
-Ability to preheat water before I start. (donít care if it takes 4 hours)

Since I scored 5 Watlow 93 PIDs, Iím not concerned about using more than a typical system would.

Here is what the layout I chose will look like.


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I also took a stab at designing a wiring schematic but the more I look at it, I keep finding little things to tweak.

Attachment 161406

Iím open to any suggestions or advice and will try to update as I make progress on the build. With 2 kids at home, it make take awhile to build however.
Nice schematics, I have been looking for a software to help laying my down on paper. What did you use ?
Thanks !
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It's Visio. I use it for a ton of stuff.
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It's Visio. I use it for a ton of stuff.
Arg, no visio for Mac !
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PJ does a lot of schematics but I'm not sure what software he uses. What about Lucid Chart? Omnigraffle? You could also run a windows emulator so you could use Visio if you really needed to.

I really like Visio because I can do brew system design at work and if anyone comes by, it looks like I'm doing real work not slacking off.
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I use illustrator for mac. But you can use GIMP. It works just as well.


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