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Old 11-13-2013, 02:52 AM   #1
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Default Dual AMP/ Volt meter wiring help

Hey Guys,

I found a dual amp/ volt meter on ebay that went with the colors of my PIDs.

After receiving this meter I'm not sure what I need to do to wire this up without bowing it up lol. So once again I thought that I would see what the ever so helpful minds of HBT thought.

So part of the reason I bought it was that I thought the transformer was built in, but it came with a small circular transformer pictured in wiring diagram with two wires coming from it.

So not being an electrician, I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts based on these diagrams, I have built a Kal inspired set up but did not install the meter originally because I have a smaller enclosure and did not have room for both meters, but would like to add this dual one. Any advice would be appreciated and thanks for taking the time to read my post.

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Old 11-13-2013, 03:32 AM   #2
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Are you using 220Vac or 110Vac?

If you want to measure incoming voltage and current, run jumper wires from the black and white wires coming from the plug/breaker to the "Input Voltage" connection and put the current transformer (The little doughnut thingy) around the incoming black wire. Connect the current transformer to the "Input Current" terminals.

Without seeing the system that's my best guess.


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Sorry I forgot I'm running 240

Ok so I do run the wires through the doughnut thingy lol.

Sounds like a start. I'll take some pics of the setup tomorrow when I give it a try. Thanks
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Old 11-13-2013, 06:30 AM   #4
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Your two voltage wires can be hooked across the two hot at the most convenient location. Length of wire, not an issue.

What are you wanting to read the amperage on?
Entire system?

Just the heating element?

Load on a circulation pump?

Basically there will be one wire passing through the current transformer.
If it's the element, pass one and only one of the hot wires through the loop. Try to keep the coil away from any other wires, especially high current ones. A few inches is best.

This too can be in a remote location with extensions on the loop OK.

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Just out of curiosity, how will you use this information while brewing? Will it make your brewing easier, or your beer better?
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Just out of curiosity, how will you use this information while brewing? Will it make your brewing easier, or your beer better?
This will contribute absolutely nothing to my brewing process. It's more cosmetic and for monitoring the system and nothing to do with my beer.

When I built the system I didn't install one and found the meter I liked and decided to give it a try.

Thanks good question.
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Just out of curiosity, how will you use this information while brewing? Will it make your brewing easier, or your beer better?
As a tech support engineer, I feel obligated to answer this question.

If there's numbers showing on the Volts/Amps panel, he is brewing. Everyone who knows him recognizes this as the sign for impromptu free beer cause it's brewing day

If there's no numbers showing on the panel he's either thinking about brewing or has just finished
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The current numbers will tell him if he's accidentally left an element on or off. The voltage numbers will tell him if his rig is making the neighbor's lights dim.
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As a tech support engineer, I feel obligated to answer this question.

If there's numbers showing on the Volts/Amps panel, he is brewing. Everyone who knows him recognizes this as the sign for impromptu free beer cause it's brewing day

If there's no numbers showing on the panel he's either thinking about brewing or has just finished
Agreed.
But for the betterment of the entire brewing/drinking community, this data will need to be streamed in real-time to HBT's website.
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Just out of curiosity, how will you use this information while brewing? Will it make your brewing easier, or your beer better?
Assuming Everty is monitoring the element . . . . .
1) Verify the element is good. You can have a Zillion volts, but no current flow means no heating
2) While in operation, he can perform some math and tell us exactly what wattage those manufacturers are selling us.
3) The BLING factor is priceless.

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