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Old 11-08-2007, 11:37 PM   #11
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7 Pils
5 Munich
0.25 BP
0.25 Choc

At 75% efficiency, gets you to 1.069 and 23SRM. That's 2% each BP and choc, which I doubt would be too noticable. Cut those to 1/8 each (1%), and you're only at 16SRM. So, I'm thinking at least 3% total to the dark malts (although I'm not factoring in the impact of decocting, or maybe include a wee bit of dark crystal/Special B for color and a little background malt note?).

EDIT: 1.6% BP, 1.6% Choc (0.20# in 5 gallons), plus 2% (.25#) Special B, gets you back to 23.3 SRM; pretty close to black.

EDIT 2: I missed the crytal; what lovibond?


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Old 11-08-2007, 11:37 PM   #12
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Ima gonna go with 60L crystal.



 
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:45 PM   #13
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With the crystal at 4.9% of the grist, 1.5% choc and 1.5% BP (0.20# each) gets you in that same neighborhood. At half a percent each, you're still brown (16 SRM)
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:33 AM   #14
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I'm thinking about brewing this Friday night. Prolly go Belgian on Sunday
So 23 SRM would be on the low side. 16 SRM is definitely brown. Sounds like in order to really make it work I'll need to break down and get the Carafa. Time to shift gears.


 
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:44 AM   #15
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Wouldn't this basically just be a Schwarzbier? (One of my favorites by the way).

 
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Old 11-09-2007, 02:08 AM   #16
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Make your beer just how you want it, without adding grains that may affect flavor.....then add sinamar: http://www.northernbrewer.com/beer-additives.html Should be just the thing...

 
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:12 AM   #17
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Sinamar looks like the hot set up. This could come in handy some day.

 
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:13 PM   #18
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Okay, so now I have decide to do a 180. I'm simply going to go ahead and use 100% pils malt on this batch, and wait until I can get some carafa in my hot little hands.



 
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