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Old 10-30-2013, 11:01 PM   #1
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Anyone else have a BYO subscription and looked at the Samuel Adams Cream Stout recipe.

It seems wrong (unless I'm reading it wrong).
They say it should be:
OG: 1.057
FG: 1.020
IBU: 28
SRM: 55
ABV: 4.9%

When I entered this in on brewtoad or beersmith at 65% efficiency, I get
OG: 1.058
FG: 1.017
IBU: 12
SRM: 42
ABV: 5.3%

The hop calcs in the recipe seem wrong to me...
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:28 PM   #2
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Can you plese post the recipe. I been working on this from scratch.
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Old 10-31-2013, 08:47 PM   #3
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Sam Adams Cream Stout - American Stout
Brewer Shadows69
Batch Size 5.500 gal Boil Size 6.750 gal
Boil Time 60.000 min Efficiency 70%
OG 1.057 FG 1.017
ABV 4.9% Bitterness
28.1 IBU (Tinseth)
Color 28.9 srm (Morey)
Calories (per 12 oz.) 189

Fermentables
Total grain: 13.750 lbName Type Amount
Briess - Pale Ale Malt Grain 9.750 lb
Briess - Wheat Malt, White Grain 1.500 lb
Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L Grain 12.000 oz
Chocolate Malt (US) Grain 10.000 oz
Milk Sugar (Lactose) Sugar 10.000 oz
Briess - Roasted Barley Grain 8.000 oz

Hops
Name Alpha Amount Use Time Form IBU
Fuggles 4.5% 1.000 oz Boil 60.000 min
Kent Goldings 5.5% 1.000 oz Boil 60.000 min
Fuggles 4.5% 0.250 oz Boil 15.000 min

Yeast
WLP004 - Irish Ale Yeast Ale

Here's mine so far. Can't get the link you posted to work.
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:29 PM   #4
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Think I forgot to publish it:
Samuel Adams Cream Stout

Fermentables:
  • 8lbs 2-Row Pale Malt (2L)
  • 1.5lbs White wheat mal (2L)
  • .9lbs caramel malt (60L)
  • .9lbs chocolate malt (350L)
  • .6lbs roasted barley (500L)
  • 4oz Weyermann Carafa I (350L)

Hops:
  • (60min) .7 AAU East Kent Goldings Pellet Hops (0.1oz/3g at 6.9% alpha)
  • (30min) 1.4 AAU East Kent Goldings Pellet Hops (0.2oz /6g at 6.9% alpha)
  • (30min) .6 AAU UK Fuggle pellet Hops (0.1oz/3g at 5.7% alpha)
  • (15min) 1.1 AAU UK Fuggle pellet hops (0.2oz/6g at 5.7% alpha)
  • (5min) 4.8 AAU East Kent Goldings Pellet Hops (0.7 oz/20g at 6.9% alpha)

0.5 tsp yeast nutrients (15min)

Yeast:
White Labs WLP001,
Wyeast 1056,
Safale US-05 Or
Lallemand BRY-97
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Old 10-31-2013, 11:00 PM   #5
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I'm going to guess that your IBU is off because you entered 0.1 oz of EK goldings instead of 1 oz for the 60 minute hop addition
Perhaps check your 30 min addition too because 0.2 oz seems odd too
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^^ types faster than me.

Other than the IBU's and SRM the OG and FG are pretty close. The 10 SRM difference beats me might be how brewtoad calculates it. I have a few BYO recipes stored in beersmith where BYO's hop schedule had to be changed to work with my equipment and the SRM was only 1-2 points off.
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Originally Posted by Sir-Hops-A-Lot View Post
I'm going to guess that your IBU is off because you entered 0.1 oz of EK goldings instead of 1 oz for the 60 minute hop addition
Perhaps check your 30 min addition too because 0.2 oz seems odd too
No, that's how it is on the recipe from page 55.
its calling for 0.1oz/3g at 6.9% for a .7 AAU at the 60min.

but I agree, as the recipe says it should be a 28 IBU.

Yeah not to worried about the SRM, its the hops. I know this should be a sweet stout, but 14 IBU seems a little low to me. I thought it might be brewtoad, so I did beersmith and ibrewmaster.

if I do a .7oz of EK golding a 60min I should get the 28 IBU.
Guess I'll have to play with this recipe.
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Has to be a misprint on the 60 mins. I come up with .95oz to get it in the 28 ibu range. 28 is where it should be.
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This is mentioned on the website:
"Our version of an English sweet stout, our Cream Stout is sweeter and fuller bodied than a traditional Irish stout, which is drier and thinner with more roasted notes. Stouts are an extension of the 19thcentury porter style, originally called “extra stout porter beer.” Sweet or milk stouts were a creamy version that originally utilized lactose to create a mild sweetness. The lactose isn’t fermentable so it remains in the beer creating a “Milk Stout”."
Leads me to believe there is lactose in cream stout. I could be wrong though.
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This is what I am settling on for tomorrow:
Sam Adams Cream Stout Version 3
Batch Size 5.500 gal
Boil Size 6.750 gal
Boil Time 60.000 min
Efficiency 75%
OG 1.056
FG 1.014
ABV 5.1%
Bitterness 28.1 IBU (Tinseth)
Color 29.5 srm (Morey)
Calories (per 12 oz.) 184

Fermentables
Total grain: 12.500 lbName Type Amount Mashed Late Yield Color
Briess - Pale Ale Malt Grain 8.750 lb Yes No 80% 3.5 srm
White Wheat Malt Grain 1.500 lb Yes No 86% 2.0 srm
Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L Grain 9.000 oz Yes No 74% 60.0 srm
Chocolate Malt (US) Grain 9.000 oz Yes No 60% 350.0 srm
Milk Sugar (Lactose) Sugar 8.000 oz No No 76% 0.0 srm
Roasted Barley Grain 6.000 oz Yes No 55% 300.0 srm
Weyermann - Carafa I Grain 4.000 oz Yes No 70% 350.0 srm

Hops
Name Alpha Amount Use Time Form IBU
Fuggles 4.5% 1.000 oz Boil 60.000 min Pellet 12.1
Kent Goldings 5.5% 0.950 oz Boil 60.000 min Pellet 14.1
Kent Goldings 5.5% 0.250 oz Boil 15.000 min Pellet 1.8

Yeast
Name Type Form Amount Stage
WLP001 - California Ale Yeast Ale Liquid 2.367 tbsp Primary
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