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Old 10-08-2013, 01:28 AM   #1
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Hi Folks,

Could you tell me if you think this batch of beer looks infected? It's made from a 5 gallon extract and Strong Belgian Ale kit to which I added some Christmas style spices late in the boil. Brewed on 12th Sep, racked to secondary on the 19th, and just noticed a patch of white film and some white filmy looking bubbles yesterday. Any feedback much appreciated.

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Old 10-08-2013, 01:36 AM   #2
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Looks like beer to me! it actually looks about the same as all five of my active carboys. I don't think you have anything to worry about.

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Old 10-08-2013, 02:24 AM   #3
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Did that film just develop? The pic isn't the clearest, but it looks like it might be developing a pellicle to me. Also, you have a lot of head space for a secondary/clearing tank... usually you want your clearing tank to be filled almost to the top, since there really isn't any fermentation happening to create a protective CO2 blanket at that point. Take a sample soon and see if there are any noticeable off-flavors. That will be your best way of finding out if there is an infection.

 
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:58 PM   #4
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Def looks like a pellicle forming to me too. After only 9 days in primary,was it at FG?
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:58 PM   #5
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Thanks for the solid feedback guys. Is having a pellicle a bad thing do you think? Would you recommend bottling at this point or would I be better to let it do it's thing for a while?

 
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:34 PM   #6
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It should be done by now,but check it anyway. If the FG is within range rack to bottling bucket out from underneith that pellicle.
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:41 PM   #7
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Is having a pellicle a bad thing do you think? Would you recommend bottling at this point or would I be better to let it do it's thing for a while?
if it's not on purpose, its generally a bad thing, but it could still turn out well. just another reason to not use secondaries

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It should be done by now,but check it anyway. If the FG is within range rack to bottling bucket out from underneith that pellicle.
I wouldn't do this unless you can store all of your bottles in the fridge once they're carbonated. racking from underneath the pellicle doesn't rid you of the infection and still leaves you at risk of bottle bombs

 
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It seems to depend on the infectant. some stay around the surface. Some don't. But racking from underneith it has been a viable option for many on here. Not much else you can do. Palmer talked about skimming it off. http://www.howtobrew.com/section4/chapter21-2.html
As he says,it can still contaminate the batch,but def worth trying.
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It seems to depend on the infectant. some stay around the surface. Some don't. But racking from underneith it has been a viable option for many on here.
no infection only effects the surface. a pellicle is just a sign of oxygen exposure, its not the mass of the infection. you can rack from underneath, but you need to drink it fast as the infection will come along

 
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I guess it depends on how many spores from the pellicle got into tyhe beer & the effects of the alcohol & yeast cell numbers still in suspension. Haven't read much on that aspect of it...
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