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Old 09-27-2013, 04:33 PM   #1
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I have 2 vials of white Labs 565 Belgian Saison.
I purchased them 2 weeks ago from Northern Brewer.

I was planning on brewing tomorrow and forgot to make my starters. If I put both vials in a 4 liter flask and put it on the stir plate today will they be ready by tomorrow?
I am making an 11 gallon Rye Saison with an expected OG of 1.065
Or should I just throw one vial in each carboy and call it a day.

I usually make my starter earlier in the week then chill it and decant the liquid, If I make it overnight I would have to split the liquid and dump the yeast and liquid because it will still be suspended.

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Old 09-27-2013, 04:37 PM   #2
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if you make the starter its not going to hurt nothing, but its still gonna be suspended in the liquid when you pitch.

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Old 09-27-2013, 04:38 PM   #3
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Based on what you have and what you're making, I say just dump one in each carboy.

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Old 09-27-2013, 04:48 PM   #4
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Bob, advice?

I'd put both vials in a 2L starter and pitch the entire starter when you're at pitching temps tomorrow. I don't like the idea of 4 liters of starter wort going into my wort but can stomach half the amount.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:00 PM   #5
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It's like calling for Beetlejuice!

Yeah, that's not gonna be enough. A Saison yeast is gonna be flavorful even when you pitch properly; if you underpitch lord knows what esters it'll throw. Step it up as much as you can and pitch a frothy starter, that's my advice. You'll get some dilution, but better 10% dilution and good flavor than the alternative.

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Old 09-27-2013, 09:08 PM   #6
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I've underpitched this yeast in two Saisons at the rate of one tube/5.5 gal of wort that gravity. Both have fermented hot and come out great. I would not worry about it, or, if I wanted to get closer to a better pitch rate, I'd reserve 2 liters of wort when I put the rest in my fermenter, seal up the fermenter, and pitch a real wort starter 24 hours later.

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