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Old 09-16-2013, 03:33 PM   #21
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How about "Ale in the style of an IPA but darker and maybe roasty" ?

Doesn't roll off the tongue but captures the style, kind of. I kid, of course.
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Old 09-16-2013, 03:39 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by stpug View Post
How about "American Ale in the style of an English IPA but darker and maybe just a little roasty with less yeast character" ?
Fixed that for you. It's perfect, and easy to remember. I vote yes on this one.

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Old 09-16-2013, 03:45 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by tgmartin000 View Post
I think there's a new category for american black ale. As opposed to cascadian dark ale. Huge difference.
What is the difference?

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Old 09-16-2013, 03:45 PM   #24
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ALL the great black IPAs I've had have been of UK origin. For that reason, the only pony I could cheer in this race is India Black Ale... but I'm still going to call 'em Black IPAs.
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:34 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by jsberry View Post
What is the difference?
The Cascadian dark ale has some roast, while the American black ale is an ipa that's black, no roast.

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Old 09-17-2013, 02:26 PM   #26
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American Dark Ale is the only appropriate name for the style.

It isn't appropriate to name a beer that has roots in the American SW, NE, and NW after one region. If you call it Cascadian, you may as well call it Hill-Country-Green-Moutain-Cascadian Pale Ale... and then you still look dumb for calling it a pale ale. That is why it needs to be American Dark Ale.

Also it is well past time to cut ties with our ancient oppressors (the pernicious Brits) and claim ADA as uniquely American. Get rid of the India nonsense already!
It could be worse.

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Old 09-17-2013, 04:28 PM   #27
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I see two choices . . .

First choice:
Take American IPA out of Category 14
Move it to Category 10, American Ale
Rename it 10D Double American Pale Ale (Double APA)
Add "Black IPA" as 10E Double American Black Ale (Double ABA)
Move English IPA and Imperial IPA into Category 19, Strong Ales

Second choice:
Rename Category 14 to India Style Ales
Put "Black IPA" into it as 14D India Black Ale (IBA)

. . . Either one works for me,
but I lean toward the simplicity of number two.

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Old 09-17-2013, 06:25 PM   #28
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I think Black IPA is fine. I don't mind a little oxymoron.

Or American Black Ale.

Anything but Cascadian Dark Ale.

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Old 09-17-2013, 06:33 PM   #29
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Betcha "Black IPA" sells better than "American Dark Ale"

It's an IPA that's black. Pretty simple. What the heck is an American Dark Ale? Not knocking the name, it's arguably a better one, but, at least currently, way too vague for my liking.

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Old 09-17-2013, 07:02 PM   #30
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Because of all this Black IPA talk, I'm gonna brew me one on Monday. I do it about 3 times a year and love it. Men in Black IPA thanks to tknice (who I've not seen on this forum in a long time).
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