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Old 10-30-2007, 06:46 PM   #31
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Boil it, can it, and:
  1. Use it for starters (boil down first)
  2. Use it for krausening (boil down first)
  3. Use it for making small beer/garbage pail ale
  4. Use it for cooking?
  5. Use it for other crazy experiments?

I say go for it.
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:32 PM   #32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by broadbill
what about this:

Take the last running from how ever many batches you want and boil them down to a super-malty syrup adjunct for adding to your beers to give them more of a malt character. I think they do this for Scotch Ales, only they use part of the mash. Here you could just add some syrup from your boil-down. Bugs wouldn't grow in it since the sugar concentration will be really high.
That's like a boil down from 1 gallon to 6 ounces! I wonder how long that would take?
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:40 PM   #33
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Wow, i didn't expect this much interest in Pail Ale. Economics really has nothing to do with it, although if you do consider economics the only cost is really propane. I think I'm going to try this out. I only brew about once a month, so by the end of winter I should have enough to play with. A friend of mine is coming home around thanksgiving and were going to brew up a doppelbock ale. That should be a good start as the 3rd running should still have a decent amount of sugar left in them.

One final thought. Everyone should collect 1/2gal of so 3rd runnings for the next few weeks and send them to me. I'll make up a batch of Pail Ale and send a few bottles back to everyone? Eh, Eh?

 
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:03 PM   #34
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That's like a boil down from 1 gallon to 6 ounces! I wonder how long that would take?

Well, to be fair...it didn't sound like this guy was interested in practicality....the practical solution would to be to trash it w/ the spent grains and not think anymore about it

Yes, I think it would take a long time, especially if he had collected the last runnings from multiple batches...

 
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:22 PM   #35
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Economics really has nothing to do with it, although if you do consider economics the only cost is really propane.
You're missing one very important cost which for some, including me, is the most important, and that is time. The time it would take to pull third runnings off your next 10 batches of beer, boil them down to something useful, care for them so they remain usable and uninfected (freezing, etc.) and have an extra brew day for "Pail Ale" is more time than most are willing to put in for highly questionable results.

If you have that commodity then I say go for it. Other than time (and propane), most everything else is already paid for.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:13 PM   #36
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Those third runnings also will have a lot of tannins in them due to higher PH values at low gravity readings.

Be nice for an experminent though.
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Old 10-31-2007, 04:33 PM   #37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by broadbill
Well, to be fair...it didn't sound like this guy was interested in practicality....the practical solution would to be to trash it w/ the spent grains and not think anymore about it

Yes, I think it would take a long time, especially if he had collected the last runnings from multiple batches...
Haha, it almost makes me want to try this to see how long it takes. It might work if you just let it boil down while you are making your regular batch, but I'd probably just forget about it and end up burning it, and stinking up the whole house.
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