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Old 10-27-2007, 02:15 AM   #21
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Based on the photo of what your SWMBO would like, as compared with your $4k budget, you will have a lot of compromises to make. Personally, if possible I'd try to bump the budget, go through with the permiting process, pour a slab, and move along from there --- even if it meant that the "shed" was going to be a work in process for a couple or more years, once you get the shell and roof on, you can move your stuff out of SWMBO's way, and then take your time with completing the details.

Another suggestion -- if you could make one very very large room by using trussing or laminate beams, etc., you'd have flexibility to put up dividing walls or 1/2 high walls wherever you want, and it could be changed later (say if you move and the next buyer has visions of a cabana vs. a brew hut...).
I do like the wrap around porch idea, too!


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Old 10-27-2007, 02:17 AM   #22
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When you purchase your A/c unit, get one that will come back on by itself after a power interruption. I learned this the hard way. The new A/C units have digital settings, when the power goes off and comes back on they will not restart by themselfs. You have to manual hit the power botton to turn them back on.

The old style units had a trun knob, when the electricty comes back on they come back on by themselves.

It's not good to come home and find your fermentables running 90 -100 degrees.

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Old 10-27-2007, 02:21 AM   #23
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Oh man, I am jealous. I would settle for a garage to brew in
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Old 10-27-2007, 03:22 AM   #24
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I'd incorporate the ability to be able to hose down your brew area. When I do my shed, it will definitely have tile floors (at least the part I do most of the brewing?cleaning activities in) WITH a floor drain. I love the idea of being able to bleach down the area and then hose it off with a good rinse.

Definitely make a cold box, and definitely plan a good plumbing system.
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Old 10-27-2007, 03:43 AM   #25
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Ed, I'm a pretty good carpenter (finished three basements, built four decks, added on a garage extension, built a four seasons room).

If I were closer I'd come down and help. As I'm suggestion would be to find a freind who's handy with a hammer and get them to "prime" your project by coming over and helping to get things started.

If not, it might be worthwhile to find a freelance carpenter looking to work for cash (should be easy to find given the new home building market right now) and have them help/guide you.

Spending an extra $1,000 in expertise and labor help might help you stretch that $4,000 out quite a bit, and avoid a $1,500 mistake...

Good luck buddy.
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Old 10-27-2007, 04:32 AM   #26
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I personally would build a 5 foot or something over hang to brew under. I don't know if I would put the system inside. If you deside to have the taps come out of the wall I would make the "serving" side big enough for lagering beer too. A door between them would result in less condensation on the frame as compared to two doors to the rest of the room. I put a little sketch together off of what you wanted based off of your comments and my ideas.

If you want I could go into more detail with the drawing for you to go off of. This is just a basic sketch. BTW the left is the porch which I included in the 20' long. The right is the over hang for the brewing equipment from which you could have an opening or coupler to pump beer from the kettle to the fermenter already in the fermentation area. The two on the top are the serving and fermentation areas from left to right. That would give you about 4 feet of tap area on the wall for the bar. The large area is about 10' by 15' big enough for almost anything.
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Old 10-27-2007, 05:19 AM   #27
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Now I know that things in Texas are fairly less expencive than here in California but I dont see all that for 4 grand. I have done a bunch of remodels and a tun of building in my short time in this life BUT just to build a say 20 x 20 room for brewing with electrical probably 100 amp service is enough (maybe 60 but why push it ) and some plumbing on a raised foundation wothout permits ( I hear ya there) your looking at 7 to 10,000 out here and thats doing it yourself and doing it right. I am just assuming your going to put a washable floor and good lighting and ventalation. Just some thoughts on you budget. I spent 2500 remodeling garage into a brewery and I already had the structure in place. 2x4's,sheetrock, wire, boxes and switches are expencive not to mention the roof and windows doors etc. I have put a bunch of stuff together like this so if you need some advice or help let me know.
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Old 10-27-2007, 07:58 AM   #28
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Sorry yes slab.

Ed, It sounds like you are set on all wood construction, is that correct?
Why not just dress with wood?
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Originally Posted by EdWort
I'm not laying a slab. It'll be pier & beam (no permit needed then). I can't get a pre-fab unit the size I want where I want without cutting down some Live Oaks, so I'm looking at building it myself.
I know chopping down healthy trees is something a lot of people aren't comfortable with but could you not go ahead and then plant a few oak saplings somewhere else on the property, for good karma.

Seems like it would save you a bunch of hassle and allow you to get a prefab.

Anyway good luck with the project.
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I can't decide on the foundation vs pier thing. Having the shed off the ground helps prevent mold/mildew problems. Plus having shade trees is a big plus in my book. While you're at the hardware store, look around at all the lumber. Prices have gone up a lot around here, while the quality is going down a bit. You may find the budget impact of this to be quite a bit if you haven't built anything in the last couple years.

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