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Old 01-22-2014, 12:53 AM   #11
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Just brewed today. Excited to see how this turns out. Didn't have enough flaked wheat so used 1lbs flaked rye.
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Old 01-24-2014, 03:13 AM   #12
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I know flaked wheat and white wheat are different but I have a TON of white wheat laying around. Think it would still turn out alright if I substitute for one another?
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:36 PM   #13
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Brewed this up using just a .5lb of Simpsons smoked malt and WLP011/Wyeast 5335lacto. Came out with much more smoke than I anticipated. Halved it because I was brewing this up for my daughter's birthday party; something the adults could enjoy. While everyone enjoyed it, the smoke was a bit too prominent, and kept everyone at two beers. I enjoy a smoked beer, but I'd almost consider doing just .25lb next time of the smoked malt. Just my preference though, with this style. Thanks for the recipe! It was definitely a hit, and look forward to drinking through the final 20, or so bottles to see how they hold up.


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Old 07-01-2014, 05:36 AM   #14
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@bradthoc I think that you will find that the type and age of your smoke malt will have a big effect on the qty needed. You might have to play it by ear depending on the main Nd what you are trying to get out of it.

I am curious. Did you find that the smoke faded at all in those last 20 bottles?


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Old 07-02-2014, 01:18 AM   #15
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Never had Simpson's Smoked Malt, but I know that the Briess is way more smokey than Weyermann.

I can tell you that the smoke faded slightly over the year or so that I kept some bottles of this.
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Old 07-03-2014, 01:18 AM   #16
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I am curious. Did you find that the smoke faded at all in those last 20 bottles?

No. I was kinda hoping it would, but it didn't. All gone now though, except for one I'll try at a year old.


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Old 05-19-2015, 10:00 PM   #17
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The only Simpson's smoked malt I know is peat smoked which is INSANELY potent stuff.

What makes a "smoked Berliner weiss" different from a Gratzer / Grodziskie or even a Lichtenhainer?


Gratzer/ Grodiziskie uses oak smoke, so that may be a difference. I've only managed to find one German Lichtenhainer and it's a modern recreation but it was only mildly sour and only mildly smoky -more of a rauch malt smoke than an oak smoke. -It was actually an incredibly easy drinking summer beer -lightly tart and lightly smokey -I could easily drink a few liters of it and I'd never say that about really any other lactic soured or smoked beer.

If the Lichtenhainer I tried was an actual reflection of the style then it's just a beer that's held in perfect balance -the acidity brightens the smoke and the smoke makes the beer more substantial -it fills out the "middle section", if you will -kind of like how Munich malt fills in the middle section in a pure basemalt beer but obviously the smoke allows you to keep the finishing gravity very low. ---I struggle with words to describe it and this as close as I can get.

There may well be room for a properly lactic sour beer like a Berliner that contains the mild rauch malt smoke that wouldn't techically be a Gratzer or a Lichtenhainer and may well best be called a "smoked Berliner" but these styles rapidly get very close together.


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Old 07-16-2016, 11:12 AM   #18
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Brewed this with the original grain bill, and am finding it not excessively smokey. Used acidulated malt in carboy instead of pure lacto culture and happy with sourness.

 
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Old 07-19-2016, 03:19 PM   #19
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Though I have to say, my wife described it as drinking an ashtray. But, then again, she doesn't like beer to begin with.

 
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Old 07-19-2016, 03:22 PM   #20
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Forgot to mention that I pitched s33 and acidulated grain concurrently instead of
lacto first. Turned out fine, but maybe not as tart as it would have otherwise.

 
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