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Old 07-22-2013, 12:39 AM   #11
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Whoa!! 65$ Here, they are over 200$ I think I will buy one in the united states later (I have a US address with reship.com ). Meanwhile, I will simply put another cable to bring 120v in my control pannel and plug the elements on that gfci. I have another 120v outlet next to that pannel. I will just inform if the midwest pannel is legal here in Canada, but why not?!? Thanks P-J

 
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:42 PM   #12
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....There's no more place for a neutral connection on the breaker. Do you think that's why I can't put 120v in my pannel?
Are you sure about this? If it's rated for 120/240 then there surely should be a neutral lug on that breaker. I found a QO250GFI image online that shows a neutral lug below where you have the black wire connected. Pull that wire loose and look closely underneath for a neutral lug near the bottom, aligned with where the neutral pigtail exits the housing. If you find it, this is where the neutral from the circuit should be terminated.
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:58 PM   #13
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Pull that wire loose and look closely underneath for a neutral lug near the bottom, aligned with where the neutral pigtail exits the housing. If you find it, this is where the neutral from the circuit should be terminated.
I will try to find it... I brought a different wire for the 120v yesterday and everything was working (tried to boil water). If the weather is good, I will try to brew a batch this afternoon. I will try to check for this neutral lug later this week.

 
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:13 PM   #14
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I did some research and found nothing on that model. Do you have the original packaging or documentation? It may show things that aren't readily apparent to the naked eye.
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Old 07-24-2013, 07:40 PM   #15
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Here is a link I found for the QO250GFI with photos. The photo on the right, when selected and mouse-over zoomed, shows a neutral lug towards the bottom right.
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Here is a link I found for the QO250GFI with photos. The photo on the right, when selected and mouse-over zoomed, shows a neutral lug towards the bottom right.
Nice catch.

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Old 07-24-2013, 08:02 PM   #17
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Nice catch.
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Old 07-25-2013, 04:21 AM   #18
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Here is a link I found for the QO250GFI with photos. The photo on the right, when selected and mouse-over zoomed, shows a neutral lug towards the bottom right.
I don't have the packaging anymore, so you think that the little screw next to le pigtail is for neutral? Is it safe to try? I guess that if it's not for neutral, the other breaker will trip anyway...

I put a second wire to bring the 120v for now, but I will try that little screw for sure!!

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Old 07-25-2013, 11:19 AM   #19
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It certianly looks that way. In fact, if you look at the 3rd picture in the link provided and mouse over, it clearly has an "N" and an arrow pointing to that hole. I'd wager to guess your breaker has the same lettering on the side telling you the same thing and you just missed it... assuming it's the same breaker and all.

So yes - that lower right port is for your LOAD neutral. Connect it and get rid of your other 120v line and use the panel as you designed it.

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Old 07-25-2013, 07:46 PM   #20
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You are better detectives than me!!. I wrote to SqareD and you are all right. Here is the answer:
"These is a neutral lug on the breaker right below where you have your black wire going out to your load. The breaker is 120-V compliant as long as the neutral for the 120 Vac load is connected to the neutral terminal on the breaker and the pigtail is connected to the neutral bar in the panel. Which from the picture it looks like you have the pigtail connected to your neutral bar. Now just connect the neutral from the load to the neutral lug on the breaker instead of on the neutral bar like you have in the picture.

Hope this helps and let me know if I can further assist."

Thanks everybody for helping, I couldn't find that myself.

 
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