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Old 10-20-2007, 06:36 AM   #11
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Can this be used to make a chiller?

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...005&lpage=none

 
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:47 AM   #12
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Yup........

 
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Old 10-20-2007, 03:05 PM   #13
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it can be a "money saving" hobby after you purchase all your equipment... well i think you would have to write all that off to a loss, (thats what i did lol) and you would have to NEVER upgrade (impossible!) BUT! if you go all grain and break it down, i think i spend around 30$ for 2 cases of beer........ still would be cheaper to buy it at the store !! how about calling it a time/money consuming hobby!! the results in the end are well worth it though!
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Old 10-20-2007, 03:48 PM   #14
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Quote:
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it can be a "money saving" hobby after you purchase all your equipment... well i think you would have to write all that off to a loss, (thats what i did lol) and you would have to NEVER upgrade (impossible!) BUT! if you go all grain and break it down, i think i spend around 30$ for 2 cases of beer........ still would be cheaper to buy it at the store !! how about calling it a time/money consuming hobby!! the results in the end are well worth it though!
$30 for a 5 gallon AG batch??? I just bought ingredients for my first AG and it was $15.

 
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Old 10-20-2007, 03:51 PM   #15
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$30 for a 5 gallon AG batch??? I just bought ingredients for my first AG and it was $15.
Yep. I buy bulk and my 10-gallon batches run around $25 including propane.

 
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Old 10-20-2007, 04:41 PM   #16
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Add in $5 an hour @ 5-8 hours and you're up to $40 more for that batch. Hobby or not, you have to put SOME price on your time if you're going to do a pure cost break down.
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Old 10-20-2007, 06:01 PM   #17
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on yea I didnt think about the cost of propane... I just got my outdoor burner. I'm sure I will be taking it into consideration now

 
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:10 PM   #18
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and the cost of water if you buy it. they run anywhere from 23-28$ a batch and i purchase water from the store so that is another 5-6$ i dont add in propane.

i dont buy bulk because i dont brew enough to use it, then i would have to buy a grain crusher which is more $$$$$
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:32 PM   #19
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My reason for brewing all grain was quality and price. I looked for quite a while to find a reliable malt grain dealer with the best prices and buy $100.00 to $150.00 each time. He can sell it to me for $25.00 a bag for 2 row and slightly higher for roasted etc. Yes I have hundreds invested in equipment and use electricity to cool it but I get a lot of enjoyment from the hobby.

I make this amber very cheap and it is loved by everyone.

18 LB 2 row - $25.00/50 = 50 cents/LB = $9.00
2 LB Crystal 60 L - $25.00/50 = 50 cents/LB = $1.00
4 oz Cascade - $4.00
2 oz Amarillo - $2.00

Yeast - WLP001 - Propigated from saved yeast $1.50

Total = $17.50 @12 gal or 18.2 cents a pint.

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Old 10-20-2007, 10:23 PM   #20
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I was just setting the guy straight on the economics of brewing. There's no question that any money or time spent on homebrewing is damn worth it but saving money is not a good reason to do it.
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