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Old 07-03-2013, 06:25 PM   #21
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Well if a good vigorous fermentation robs flavor - then why not make every hoppy beer 'hop tea'd'? Granted I have found little to no reliable info on how to successfully impart great hop flavor with the tea, and even when I find someone who gives detailed instructions and reports results, half the posters on the thread vehemently disagree.

I know adding no hops pre-primary seems extreme but if it drives off flavor why not add them all after primary? Am I going crazy?


Just dump 4 oz. of hops in your next beer at flameout and you will have none of these concerns anymore. Trust me.


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Old 07-03-2013, 06:49 PM   #22
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I think you're vastly overestimating the amount of flavor and aroma that is lost during primary fermentation. It's really not that big of a deal. Sure I guess you lose a little, but it's been like that since beer was invented (well I guess since people started adding hops to beer actually, but that's still a really long time) so recipes and general brewing practice account for that.



 
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:24 PM   #23
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I will go ahead and put some more trust in conventional technique - and rev up the additions @ flameout. Will report results.

Thank you all for your suggestions. I wish there was more debate on the issue of lost flavor during primary going on out there. I am still really curious about it.

In fact I am going to add Cascade @ flameout to the pale ale that is currently mashing.
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Old 07-04-2013, 01:23 AM   #24
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I will go ahead and put some more trust in conventional technique - and rev up the additions @ flameout. Will report results.

Thank you all for your suggestions. I wish there was more debate on the issue of lost flavor during primary going on out there. I am still really curious about it.

In fact I am going to add Cascade @ flameout to the pale ale that is currently mashing.
Nice! Don't be afraid to add too much!

You can't do anything about the aroma lost in primary anyway. The best advice I heard was from Tasty Mcdole. If your recipe isn't hoppy enough, just add more hops!
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Old 07-04-2013, 01:37 AM   #25
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what is your transfer process like? I saw you used a secondary. Are you careful to purge O2? Oxidation can do bad things for hop flavor and aroma. Also, do you whirlpool? Hopstand?

 
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Old 07-04-2013, 06:18 AM   #26
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I have not whirlpooled/hopstanded until this very day with a PA I made - and unfortunately I do not purge O2 - I try to prevent oxidization in ways I know how but have not encountered any information on how to purge O2 while transferring wort/beet or otherwise. Is there a good thread I should know about?

Thank you
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Old 07-04-2013, 06:20 AM   #27
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I went ahead and added an oz each of Cascade/Amarillo just a few min post FO in addition to another oz each @ 5 min. This pale should be good. Thanks Smizak
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:28 PM   #28
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Let us know how it comes out
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:32 PM   #29
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I always go with the hop-bursting method and really have seen nothing wrong occur. I've only recently gotten into hoppy beers, so I really haven't even been pushing things far enough to give a good recommendation, but I recently did a big black IPA brew with heavy hop bursting and dry hopping (only one ounce of pellets for the dry tho), so Ill see how that turns out.

I;m hoping for one huge, hoppy brew.

I'm kegging it up today, so I should have an answer for how it is in about a week or so ^_^

 
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:49 PM   #30
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When I first read about hopbursting it was this article and this recipe:
http://www.mrmalty.com/late_hopping.php

Though it has 5oz within the last 20 minutes. I found it to be underwhelming. I think the true hoppy beers need include that bittering 60 minute charge and also dry-hopping.



 
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